MORE THREATS, MYTHS, SICKOS AND THICKOS PART 3

As this case has been so politically driven from the outset, I would imagine that the way in which the case unravels (I do believe it will, eventually) will also be governed by political interests. Timing is everything in politics. There are good times to bury bad news and there are bad times to bury good news. And so on. Politicians want to gain votes. The Government of the day have a need to keep at least a semblance of law and order and that means the public having at least some level of confidence in the police force, the NHS, our legal system and other professional/state bodies. I think this case demonstrated just how much sleaze there had been under B LIAR and it carried on under Brown. It happened at a very sensitive time politically and provided a convenient platform for many people to jump on. I think the unfolding of the case will also be governed at least in part by what else in going on politically and the prevailing mood and climate of the economy generally. There is also diplomacy to be considered - not just relations with Portugal but how the UK is perceived internationally. To continue to allow a bunch of mediocre and neglectful doctors to lead a major crime investigation, control and gag the media, launder money around in a fraudulent fund which finances libel suits against detractors would not be good for the UK's image. It's quite ironic really that Clarence Mitchell used to be involved in media relations for the Government. The zeal with which he attached himself to the McCann wagon from practically the outset was proof, in one were needed, that politics was always a defining feature of this case. Quite sickening really when you consider what the case SHOULD really be about.

Re: Red Flags
BlackCatBoogie Today at 1:13 pm

rainbow-fairy wrote:   TY HelenMeg - I think it important to be open-minded here. It would be all too easy to think something impossible just because we can't contemplate it (something textusa's swinging blog did illustrate, imo) Personally I am on the fence over a few aspects, especially whitewash v truth. Very well argued from both sides - I find myself changing my mind every time!
We are lucky to have some fantastic posters here, thanks to you all  
Your posts are always well written and make sense to me  - I'm thinking it completely possible for swingingand paedophilia to coexist (swinging much more palatable, anyway)

Dee Coy wrote:  I have often wondered if the swinging theory could relate to the children - swinging with each others' children instead of, or as well as, themselves.

So sorry to spell it out, I've considered this for a while but the sheer horror of the implications that would be revealed by such a sick scenario has prevented me suggesting it thus far.  

Just a tentative, revolting, theory.

Yes this has crossed my mind Dee Coy.  It is also crossed my mind that they were offering some sort of holidays (with the help of local contacts) with "additional extras". Looking at the link we found above the words "lolita", "package" and "swing" jump out along with the female names, including "Madeleine" (although this document needs to be looked at further to ascertain which computer is was actually taken from, and who did the searches) :-

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA1_4/o_apenso_1_Vol_4_p634.jpg

I seem to remember there were references to "boys" and "girls" on a website for holidays in Burgau - I will try and find this information later.  

And all this during the period that includes "Alice Day" celebtrations, starting on the 25th April and which normally conclude on May 4th (Alice Liddel's birthday).

All in my own opinion of course.

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   Jason Vorhees COUPLES WHO KILL,ITS NO COINCIDENCE SINCE MADDIE WAS MURDERED BY HER PARENTS ,SHE HAS BEEN A CONSTANT SOURCE OF MONEY MAKING,THEY TRY N TELL US NO WE LOVED MADELINE, BUT THE CHANCE OF A PREDATOR ,BREAKING IN N SNATCHING THIS CHILD ARE PRETTY RARE, MONEY MONEY MONEY, THEY'LL EVENTUALLY COME UN STUCK, THIS IS WHY IT HAPPENED ABOARD ,MAKING A POLICE INVESTIGATION EVEN HARDER,

   Jason Vorhees HE WONT FEEL ANY REMORSE HE'S A NARCISSISTIC, N HER SHES JUST A BITCH, THE LOVE OF THE MOTHER IS WORST IN MY MIND , THE MOTHER IS SCARED TO UR CHILD U R THE LIFE TO UR CHILD, YET SHE STANDS SIDE BY SIDE, BECAUSE THEY BOTH DID IT, GERRY MCCANN WAS JIMMY SAVILLES AQUINTENCE TOO,

   Jason Vorhees greed i know pple move on but u don't do it with the money u make from your daughter or use this publicity to help ur own business, no one even heard of them until Madeline.

Calls itself Jason but it appears to be a Marie O'Connor

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PostPosted by Alibongo » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:26 am
Sharon Harris
Yesterday at 12:13am
What do members think will happen if Amamral wins the libel trial?
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Paul Rees Not sure what I think will happen, but I know what I'd like to happen Sharon
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For a start I wish we could get some literate members that could at least spell Goncs name right

Molly Paxin I reckon he will win if it boils down to freedom of speech. The capacity he wrote it in could be the damage part though I reckon.
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Charley Rance Spin will make it still look good for the MC's and Amaral will still be a big ol baddie, crap detective
Don't forget the disgraced label
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Jacqueline Gibson If he wins is that not enough to prove a case mccs
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Paul Rees It should certainly lead to more people questioning their innocence,at the very least. One newspaper editor has said off the record he will publish the court verdict and be damned!
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Andy Bathgate more people will join this site lol
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Matching socks oh goody

Laurent Houtent The UK gutter press headlines will be something like "Corrupt judge fixes trial for scum cop"
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Jason Vorhees ANY ONE WHO AS SPOKEN ABOUT THE MCCANN'S THE TRY N SHUT THEM UP WITH LIBEL CASES
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Shelagh Ferreira Nothing will happen in UK when he wins but it will be well reported in Portugal and may open the floodgates for the release of more info which can't be ignored.
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Karen Johnston I am a bit on edge about SY, now at first i thought they were going to do the job, but with all these Fairy story's I am now doubtful, I cant see why SY investigation be done without giving spin about case to papers. But if the trial has been delayed to clear all these Patsys etc so when GA wins & truth is told with more added, The PJ can serve a extradition order without any hurdles to jump over. I have said before I think Taurus & september are important times & justice will come with a Double edged sword, Could be they will be charged with concealing a corpse but we will never know what happened to this poor child & how she met her passing, Or they get out off being sent back but we will all know the truth . Be fun to see others version of a scenario of a double edge Sword it would be very interesting to see who gets it right ! when it comes out .
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Angie Downing Widdop Maybe it's the reason why old stories being printed again, sy and press biding their time so when he wins they can pounce on the mcscams IMHO
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Jason Vorhees NO I DON'T THINK IT IS , IF THE EVIDENCE WAS THERE TO CONVICT THEM OF CHILD MURDER, THEY,D OF BEEN ARRESTED, I BELIEVE ITS JUST LACK OF EVIDENCE THEY ARE AT LARGE STILL,U CAN NOT TAKE SOME ONE BEFORE A CROWN JUDGE N HAVE NO EVIDENCE, N I THINK, ITS NO INCIDENCE THAT SHE WENT ABOARD AS TO SOME DEGREE THIS WOULD HAMPER THE INVESTIGATION sorry i have to write in lower caps i forgot, 'sorry'the only witnesses is them two. they'll be forever in each other dept n the way it is i think at times we'll never know,the truth, like jon benet ramsey, killed in her home, parents were suspect but could never prove it
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Whirley Champagne Newman I still hope SY are putting these so called suspects out there, find no evidence and put em to bed once and for all. Prob wrong. The Benet Ramsey case was interesting. I still think the mother did it, wrote the randsom note and the ole man went along with it imho.
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Jason Vorhees the reason of why this was not investigated proper is the connection of Portugal n britian ,which is mass tourism n property if they find mc dead in Portugal,then britian will stop a lot of revenue to Portugal.. n this is one big reason pple say it was not investigated, yes there was a lot of conflicting evidence in the jon benet, murder.... and they were wealthy
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Jason Vorhees sy are a waste of time.look what they came up with?????
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Whirley Champagne Newman In the Jon Benet case, they just could not find any damning evidence!
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Jason Vorhees THIS WAS VERY TRUE, IT A INTERESTING CASE N LIKE THIS REMAINS UNSOLVE
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Whirley Champagne Newman What do you think in that case Jason Vorhees?
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Jason Vorhees I LIKE TO THINK IT WAS DUE TO HER PARENTS,AS TIME PASSED BY AND OTHER THINGS CAME TO LIGHT, IT SORT OF SWAYED ME IN TO A LIL DOUBT, for example the cellar window at first it was no one especially a adult could fit threw it,later a crime scene expert fitted through it, the photo stating there was no foot prints in the snow,there was no snow round the cellar window,the suitcase in the cellar, placed under the celler window,[as if there to help some one back through]things like this but, i must agree it is highly likely it was a family member.
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Amy Godfrey Can I just ask, why would the result of the trial have any affect on the scotland yard investigation?
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Jason Vorhees which trail lovli ????
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someone needs to take more water with their alcohol
Jason Vorhees the case with amamal v McCann, very interesting,as the judge lifts the ban,stating the legal reasons ect,,,,, guess were the McCann have gone running???? the SUPREME COURTS,THIS BOOK, APPARENTLY HAS THE VERY FIRST STATEMENTS OF THE ORIGINAL INVESTIGATIONS N JERRY N KATES STATEMENTS N TRANSCRIPT,THEY REALLY DO NOT WANT PEOPLE READING THIS EVEN THOUGH SOME BOOKS WERE SOLD BEFORE THE GAGGING
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Charley Rance Amy it won't really. It is a libel trial. Unless something spectacular came out in the way of more evidence.
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Jason Vorhees YOU CAN TAKE A LIBEL [CIVIL] ACTION TO THE SUPREME COURTS
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Jason Vorhees THE MCCANS ARE GOING TO THE NEXT COURTS ON APPEAL ,WHICH THEY CAN DO,THEY DO NOT WANT THIS BOOK OUT FULL STOP, WITH TOP LAWYERS N MONEY THEY CN GO WERE THEY WANT , N THERE GOING TO APPEAL IT WITH THE SUPREME COURTS,
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Jason Vorhees crown courts,high courts,courts of appeal,[uk] courts of the European unit, n the human rights courts, which all hear both criminal n civil cases including libels.
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Jason Vorhees charley rance, this can be heard in the supreme courts, they deal with civil-being libel, n criminal too
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Jason Vorhees AMY GODFREY Scotland yard have just not long finished there investigations in to Madeline disapearence
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Shelagh Ferreira MCs prob won't appeal forthcoming verdict in Portugal as they know they will lose again. More money, more bad publicity. As to European Court, etc - don't think so as almost everyone outside the UK is against them.
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Shelagh Ferreira This is a Very British case. They may have some supporters in Anglo countries but in Europe, almost none.
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Jacqueline Gibson Jason calm down there time will come Just like all the other disappeared.
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Jacqueline Gibson SEND mccans to Portugal they sure as hell will be kept they guilty.
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Jacqueline Gibson Shelagh a don't think so don't think the british would stand for this kinda of shite.
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Jacqueline Gibson AYE was banned of the hi de ho site for speaking my mind whats the point of having these sites.
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Whirley Champagne Newman Speak freely I say. As long as it's polite...
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Shelagh Ferreira Jacqueline Gibson - Yes, I remember you were also banned that night for ... speaking freely and politely. Although I liked this site at first I now realise it's strictly controlled and not for me.
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Julie-Anne Turner Do a happy dance!
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While I was doing my Mrs Mop job last night (where I do most of my thinking to pass the horribleness of my job),it suddenly struck me that supposing we'd gone on holiday with a group of friends, no matter how tight knit that group was, over let's say a period of seven years had passed, you're not telling me at some point one of that tight circle would have at some point, wanted to spill the beans on any 'misfortunes' that may have 'occurred' during that holiday!??? I don't know of any group of so called Bessie mates that don't fall out at some point, personally. Someone has got something 'big' on one of these so called mates methinks. All of course IMO.

Bigg Hoof ‏@BiggHoof 3h
Last tweet shd have read:- "The parents of Madeleine #Mccann are to issue twitter and facebook with a cease & desist order to stop trolling"

Bigg Hoof ‏@BiggHoof 3h
The parents of Madeleine #Mccann are to issue twitter with a cease & desist order to twitter and facebook to stop trolling.

N.M ‏@AdirenM 3h
It's a shame it's raining or I would go after the UK MSM that landed in Luz. I even know where they're getting drunk. #mccann  

Vera Broughton Frances, same here. Lets hope it happens in our lifetimes. In the meantime, I hope that the McCann's are living in total misery. We can't hope for remorse from them as you need a conscience to feel sorry about something you have done wrong. Their remorse level is the same as the brain activity of a person who has had a complete lobotomy. No brain, no activity. No conscience, no remorse.
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Frances Gallagher There will be one heck of a party when that pair are locked up for life,

coco wrote:is that the hairdresser one ?

janine bresnick ‏@BresnickJanine
#mccann MWT expert on diplomatic bags. Is this how ashes from portugal returned back

David Craig
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My understanding is that once the PJ reopened the case then the ARGUIDO status on the Mccanns had to be reinstated. Does anyone know if this is correct. If correct could this be why we hear nothing from them . Could it have a bearing on why libel case dragging its feet?

ultimaThule wrote:
On a point of information, Cristobell, AR said that 'Madeleine may not have left apartment 5A alive' which statement in itself does not equate to a "death in the apartment theory", nor does it indicate that your theory is one "they are now following".

There will of course be speculation here as to what alternative meaning may be read into AR's words, but IMO such speculation should not be disseminated on social networks by those who are known to be members of this forum as it can only serve to adversely reflect on the credibility of the membership as a whole

Elaine Wilkinson ‏@elainesyp999
@NOTATROLL11 . Il have to read up again on Hideho but when locals saw #mccann dining with Murat in Chaplins half a mile from OC where kids

MWAHAHAHA, that's the stupidest yet.         

BTW, they do know the whole 'Chaplins' bollox was invented by that attention-seeking troll Vera, Blondie's chum?

IsabelleMcFadden ‏@PORTUGALONLINE 3h
I just know Portugal wouldn't spend Portuguese tax money during austerity measures and not arrest #mccann s as it is wished by Portuguese

Evening, I was looking for an appropriate thread to post this in, but can't see one. I am new to the group, so please let me know if I break any rules. Like many, I have always thought the Tennis balls pic to be strange. It looked, IMO to be made from parts of other images. From day One I was disturbed by the bump on M's back, among other anomalies. I was looking one day and focused on just the torso, and became convinced that it was that of an adult male- muscular back, taught shirt around the waist, a general filled out appearance. I decided to cut out the torso and recompose it onto a gentleman. Now, I am no graphic artist as you will see, however it took me 30 mins and I've tried to get across how much more convincing the muscular shoulder is when it's a male adult. (I may be alone in this but hey ho!)



Sue Armstrong Very observant Effie.....I think ur theory is spot on......and Whirley Champagne Newman ...yep I thort her head looks odd on here x