JAYELLES COMMENTS ON FAITHLILY POST

Faithlilly
For someone who has been the victim of a supporter's campaign to find where I worked in order to inform my employers of my McCann-sceptic posts, and in the meantime contacting the employers of a poor woman with the same name as myself, I think it's rather rich of you to take the moral high ground.

In my time I have seen supporters use deaths in the family, sexual abuse, disability and mental health problems as subjects with which to harangue sceptics. I have seen one woman driven nearly mad by threats from supporters when they managed to obtain her phone number. I have seen sceptic's children targeted by supporters by the posting their photographs on their blogs.

So please don't pretend that there aren't lunatics on both sides and further don't pretend for one minute that the harassment that the McCanns suffer at the hands of a very few idiots is any more frightening than the harassment that many sceptics suffer at the hands of their supporters.

Jayelles

I don't think anyone is pretending that there aren't "lunatics" on both sides. There are just a lot more of them on the anti McCann side! I daresay there are a few misguided souls who are sincere in their delusions, and a lot are conspiracy theorists. I think the conspiracy theorists stick mostly to discussion forums though. Probably because the forums are better suited to long-winded posts about false flags and C&P'd articles from the Fortean News.

Re those who are left, there are a few who are clearly mentally ill (and I feel genuinely sorry and concerned for them). The rest are in it for malice.

I don't know where Pillow fits into it. I know I have said in the past that I find her quite funny at times, I genuinely cannot get a handle on her. She seems at times to be almost a caricature. I know that when she is rampant on Twitter, I relax in the knowledge that she will frighten most peeps away. Oddly, although several of the antis give me the creeps, Pillow doesn't. There are times when I find her almost endearing - possibly because she can be quite self-deprecating and she has made me laugh on a number of occasions. Don't lynch me for that, I think she is more of a danger to herself than others. She has also invented some of the more interesting terms and phrases on Twitter and that has to be worth something. I have to be careful not to use them in every day life. Can you imagine the kind of school report I could write about the class pest using Pillow-speak?

I do not approve of harassing families, workplaces or outing people in the sense of using dirty tricks to find out who they are and then revealing it online. That is very far removed from proving that one sock is another and commenting on personal information which the person has chosen to post online themselves. The hounders seem unable to differentiate between the two.

Only last week a pro on Twitter said that a new tweep was Liz Martin's daughter. The new tweep was posting under the same Emma Martin. Liz Martin's profile states that her daughter is called Emma. Last year, when Liz and I were friendly, I checked out the link she sent me to her FB page and her daughter is very active on it. I was impressed with what a nice person she is - nothing like the Emma Martin on Twitter. Her name is also NOT Emma Martin. However, I could see how the conclusion had been drawn by added the comment of my own that I was pretty sure Emma Martin was not related to Liz. The Goons immediately put two and two together and ASSumed a different conversation altogether. One which they started banging their pitchforks over and one tweep protested that we should not be naming anyone's children. Uhm.... Liz Martin has named her ADULT daughter herself. Her choice. If you put information "out there" by choice then you cannot complain when other people comment upon it or refer to it.

And yes, around this time last year, Synonympty passed onto her her pals Veniviedivici and Dodgy the personal info of a woman she claimed was me. She said it had taken her 10 minutes to discover my personal info online. :rolleyes: That she had simply googled "Jayelles" and found a little craft forum with a member called "Jayelle". Not quite the same, but apparently close enough. Now I have never checked for sure, but it would seem that "Jayelle" has a FB page from which Syno & co elicited the names of family members, work colleagues etc and they were posting these on Twitter - presumably to try and intimidate me. At first, I had no idea what they were talking about. Why was Syno tweeting a link to a song to me? Why was she asking me about card-making? It wasn't until the woman's details started getting posted properly that it became apparent that the song contained the name of the road where the woman lived or worked and that card-making was her hobby. After that, the woman's details became fodder for the trolls and there were hideous photoshopped images stolen from her Facebook page and comparing her to Jimmy Savile. Even her 100 year old father was fair game. It bothered me a lot that this woman was being treated in this way on my behalf. I was urged to go to police about it and I agonised over whether to contact the woman and make her aware of the abuse. What held me back was the thought that any prosecution which might result, might require me as a witness and that my ID and personal details would fall into the hands of the perpetrators after all. I decided to focus my energy on complaining to Twitter instead and I have to say they were good.

But I am tired of it all now. Until the police get themselves sorted out, the trolls will reign supreme. Innocent people will get hurt and the cycle will continue ad nauseam. Life is too short.