BENNETT FANCIES HIMSELF AS THE GREAT DEDUCTER.

 REPLY: I agree - but you haven't explained yet WHY Murat lied so much in his initial interview. Why did he? What was he hiding?

or anything on his or Malinka's computers. Just my view that's ll.

Re: Deducting:

Yes Deducting - deducing takes a good deal of intelligence and as far as SY have performed so far it's a trait that they are currently lacking.

Deducting from 38? persons of interest whilst 9 additional persons are missing from the list. We're down to around 33? after the Tractor Man the Guitar playing man and three charity collectors. Only 33 to go. This could last for years through deducting not deducing.

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I'm sure Judge Tugendhat doesn't agree.            

Re: "Digging" with a helicopter (continued from 'digging at resort')
Tony Bennett Today at 10:58 pm

russiandoll wrote:

And the Portuguese are IMO dead right.

The two good things to come out of this are that:

(a) any lingering doubt that the PJ and Operation Grange have any kind of relationship - other than one little short of hatred towards each other - has surely now been removed or good, and

(b) Scotland Yard, to anyone one reasonably well-informed on the case, have shown themselves to be the dishonest, pretentious, time-and-money wasting fools and parasites that they have been ever since the red-headed wizardress forced this review/investigation on to a reluctant Prime Minister.

Credit however to the Portuguese Police who made sure that Redwood and his men paid for this helicopter farce - and have royally humiliated the once-great and mighty Scotland Yard.

How can this monumental farce be allowed to continue for one hour longer?

Why are the MPs, the Metropolitan Police Authority, honest senior officers in the force (if we have any left, that is) and other public figures not demanding answers and a full public enquiry into the utter waste of public money on an investigation that is clearly heading nowhere at all.

In fact, why are we on this forum just typing way here all the time - and not breaking off to take up these concerns directly with all the powers-that-be?

Is it not time for each one of us to consider and discuss what action we can take to halt this expensive, pointless circus?


P.S. Prediction: THERE WILL BE NO DIG

He should be good at that just like he was at the Royal Courts of Justice.

Digging" with a helicopter (continued from 'digging at resort')
Post PeterMac on Fri May 09, 2014 9:41 am

"Digging" thread now at 100 pages, so starting another one - (if that is OK admin.)
Military helicopters are not just hired by the hour on the spur of the moment, like catamarans on the beach
ergo
this little jolly has been planned for a long time,
the PJ have had full knowledge of exactly what SY wanted to do - and by implication have approved it
The whole thing has been approved at VERY high level.
By which I mean Government - Ministry of Defence after consultation with the "Home Office" = Ministry of the Interior equivalent

ergo
Someone must have spelled out
Exactly WHAT they wanted to look for
Exactly WHERE they wanted to look
Exactly WHY
Exactly WHO
and so on.

And this must have been agreed as a viable and useful thing to do.
By the entire Chain of Command

They are clearly NOT looking for freshly turned soil, nor are they looking for a little girl in a pink hat
So what are they looking for that they could not see on a decent map or aerial photograph.

Suggestions ?  

Suggestions?  How about you clean up the dog sh*t surroubding your manky BandB, for starters?
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MAY 11TH, 2014 4:58 PM
Your commenter PM is of course the ‘ex detective’ mentioned in the above article, which very many of the people following the case are well aware of. I think it’s time you gave his views less air time, because he is anything but a dispassionate observer. The Olive Press is sullying its reputation for fair and unbiased journalism by using him as a source as he is known for his extremely biased views on all things McCann.

Correio da Manha spells it out, 11.5.2014 - DCI Redwood was only showing off
Tony Bennett Today at 7:39 pm

Corrieo da Manha editorial today:

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"Poor Maddie. A British police chief who just wants to be on TV uses Maddie's parents' claims to show off - and comes to Portugal to meddle in the Portuguese investigation. To show off, on TV, they 'investigate' idiotic leads, for the English to see - i.e. just for the sake of appearances - and they even do 'aerial searches' (!!!) seven years after the child disappeared. An embarrassment to him and to the Portuguese state".

in Correio da Manhã, May 11, 2014

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[i]Re: Correio da Manha spells it out, 11.5.2014 - DCI Redwood was only showing off
Watching Today at 8:00 pm

· theguardian.com, Wednesday 25 April 2012 11.15 BST

He (Redwood) said the team was developing new information about what happened to Madeleine five years ago, when she disappeared from her parents' holiday villa in Praia de Luz.

"We are currently developing material which we believe represents genuine new information," said Redwood.

He said officers had carried out a forensic analysis of the timeline of events, and had identified opportunities when the child could have been taken in a criminal act.

Dismissing conspiracy theories about Madeleine's parents' involvement, Redwood said he believed the girl's disappearance was the result of
"a criminal act by a stranger".

He's developing material which he believes represents genuine new information? I know how I'm voting!

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According to Bennett:

Correio da Manha has spoken for me.

Operation Grange is an indelible stain on the fabric of our country.

Really? A notorious Portuguese rag, specialising in gossip, real or invented, and reviews of ghastly 'sex shows' in Lisbon, is speaking for Bennett?

There are a great many things which are stains on the fabric of the UK. Operation Grange isn't one of them.

Grubby, prurient old prodnoses stalking innocent people, worshipping dirty cops, obsessing over sex, terrorising families, etc., are a stain on ANY society.

He's sounding cocky isn't he? You would think he would be more careful unless he wants to be hauled back to court.

Anonymous
MAY 11TH, 2014 8:00 PM
Ex Detective? Why not B & B owner?(Which he is now). Doesn’t sound so good does it. One wonders why Ex Detective? Early retirement? Why? Especially as he thinks he is so knowledgeable about crime.
The Ex Detective moniker does not mean PM has anymore insider information than any other forum user following this sad case.
As to you the Olive press, I agree with Callie you do yourselves no favours letting him behave this way and then letting him comment as PM praising his own “insight” on this case.

PM
MAY 11TH, 2014 1:39 PM
JOHN BRIGGS – One man who had his own suspicions and voiced them, was sentenced to three months imprisonment and had a third of his Old Age Pension taken from him – for the rest of his life – by the McCanns. Even though his suspicions were exactly in line with what the PJ and the Legal Authorities in Portugal had said. Perhaps that is why people have been reluctant to speak out – including the papers, incidentally. There is a lot of treading on egg-shells.

Notice the B & B Researcher left out one important word - SUSPENDED but that doesn't sound so good does it?

Old Age Pension? Getting a pension doesn't mean old. As they say, 65 is the new 50 now. For the rest of his life? If he outlives the number of years he has to pay then it will be for the rest of his life. Who, except the One, knows?

What PM has missed off is that Bennett didn't have to do that if he had been an honorable man and obeyed the undertakings he had given.

Cathy
MAY 11TH, 2014 9:24 PM
PM (your anonymous source) is far from a “senior detective”.
He is not of those who in expressing opinions confine themselves to facts.
The man PM in his comment is talking about is Tony Bennett.
TB has been convicted of contempt of court at the High Court in London.
Bennett, who is behind the Madeleine Foundation, was given a three-month prison sentence, suspended for a year.
He was also ordered to pay Kate and Gerry McCann’s court costs.

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MAY 13TH, 2014 9:44 AM
FYI the Olive Press is not supporting PM’s personal views at all… Indeed we openly disagree… Having investigated this case ourselves (on 4 trips to Praia) we believe the parents are innocent…
However on this very point he, as does anyone, has a right to his view and, read again please, these are not crazy unsubstantiated claims. And the comments are being modified and this stream will be shut down if it sinks further into a slanging match.
PM’s comments are relevant as he lives in Spain, actually was a senior police executive for many years and we have never heard he was disgraced in any way. He also runs a solid business, pays his taxes and mostly behaves himself, we understand!

Police 'executive'? Hmm...

Dirtymac knows as little about the military as he does about everything else. Of course choppers can be used at virtually no notice, especially in nations with a lot of coastline.

LIKE PORTUGAL.

Or does dirtymac think people have to give Portuguese rescuers advance notice that they're about to capsize?

Maybe he was in charge of the police filing system.

Broho wrote:Maybe he was in charge of the police filing system.  

Or a CAD operator, ie an employee answering calls from the police cars and the public. Not a real cop;

"Senior Police Executive"? Sounds like a euphemism for an admin officer or something.

Bennett's really screaming his head off about the Olive Press.

YES, PeterMac from here has effectively been 'outed' by Jon Clarke and the commentators.

Serves him right, no-one forced him to pretend to be a proper police officer.

Didn't Bennett out people on his forum?

Head Hounder is angry demanding answers - Bennett is in bold.  .  

The Olive Press was the first newspaper on the scene following her disappearance.

And Jon Clarke has resolutely failed to explain, despite being asked repeatedly:

1. WHEN he got the summons to go to Praia da Luz

2. WHO told him to go there

3. HOW LONG it took him to get from his home nesar Ronda in Spain to Praia da Luz on the south-west coast of Portugal - normally a journey of 5 to 6 hours

4. HOW HE CAME TO BE IN PRAIA DA LUZ on the MORNING of Friday 4 May, as he boasted in an edition of the Olive Press back in October 2007.

If he got there before noon, he must have set off from his home before 7am - and must have got the summons from someone in the media.

Who called you, Jon Clarke, and when?

 Numerous people, including neighbour and former suspect Robert Murat, were able to traipse around the crime scene unimpeded,

OK, so on what basis does Jon Clarke purport to KNOW that Robert Murat was 'allowed to traipse around the crime scene unimpeded'?

From where has he got the evidences for that?

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Re: Operation in search for Maddie McCann
Post PeterMac Today at 6:51 pm

What was also interesting was that in the comments I included reference to the DOGS
And all hell broke loose, as it always does when people do.

I suspect, obviously that some of the ANONs are paid shills, possibly close to Rothley itself, whose sole purposes it to disrupt any comments thread which attempts to discuss
and since they have nothing else to say, the argumentum ad hominem (abusive) is the easiest wasy to do it.

So let us state again, in case they are watching this thread.
 1 The dogs revealed the previous presence of a deceased human - or of materials closely connected with a deceased human - in apartment 5A
2 No (other) person is recoded as having died in 5A
3 The parents BOTH told lies to the investigating police officers, from their very first contact with them
4 The dogs also alerted to indicate contact with materials associated with a deceased human, on clothing owned and worn by Kate and on items associated with Gerry.

Re: "Digging" with a helicopter (continued from 'digging at resort')
stillsloppingout Today at 7:05 pm

roy rovers wrote:
whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:
roy rovers wrote:
Any T9 pact of silence must be secured in the knowledge that unless one of them talks there will NEVER be a prosecution because they know for a FACT that the body is hidden where it will NEVER be found.

I don't see how that logically follows. Just because there is a pact of silence doesn't mean that the body is hidden where it will never be found.

It is one of the remarkable features of this case that none of the T9 have broken rank (as far as we know). What I'm saying is that just as there must be some secret that binds them together in the first place there must also be some knowledge that prevents any one of them breaking rank. I'm suggesting that they might know for a FACT that the body is hidden where it will NEVER be found so that as long as none of them speaks out there isn't going to be any external evidence in the form of a body. I'm making this point in the context of the helicopter search and proposed digs. I don't think they're going to find anything until someone in the T9 tells them exactly where to look. All IMO of course.

Because allegedly IMO they as Kate so eloquently stated " we are all into each other " when she made that statement she was clearly still strung out on whatever she was on [ most docs are users, from simple meds to smack ] the glue is the [ ALLEGED SWINGING ] and if that involves [ allegedly ] sharing there kids or not . pretty strong reasons to stay quiet .

Ask yourself .McCanns from leicestershire , the rest from all four corners of the UK . when did anybody ever go on holiday with people who you did not know by either family ties or work , they IMO were brought together by a common interest .
and IMO i have had it stated to me that they were swingers .i know of two famous couples ,one you would not believe that i know for sure .the McCanns they know just cant publish

that WUM still inventing fairytales , is he ?  

You mean he's not a journo?   

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I think Jon and the Olive Press was used by this man to carry out the plan of Mr Bennett - to plant stories from PM in the English speaking papers in Portugal and Spain, in order to provoke the PJ into withdrawal of cooperation with SY for leaking stories to the press.

Many are coming to this conclusion. And want to know if Gonzo was involved in this effort at sabotage and disinformation.

Re: "Digging" with a helicopter (continued from 'digging at resort')
 Tony Bennett Today at 11:10 am

ChippyM wrote:
Personally I don't believe SY are 'leaking' stories, The McSpin is creating the illusion that SY are looking at an endless string of pedos and burglars

ChippyM, this is no illusion created by 'McSpin', as you put it.

At least some of these specific press stories have been confirmed as true by Scotland Yard, which proves there are leaks; all the evidence suggests to me that these are quite deliberate by Scotland Yard.

But over and above that, are Scotland Yard 'looking at an endless string of paedos and burglars?

Definitely!

Mobile phones to search - more than ten thousand

Sex offenders to trace - over 500

Suspects - 60 so far, 22 eliminated, 38 left

ILORs asking to interview named burglars? - confirmed by Grange

Smelly bin man may have broken into 18 homes? - confirmed by Grange.

And so on...

More serious allegations from Bennett.