DISSENTION IN THE RANKS ON CANDYFLOSS'S ANTI-FORUM? BENNETT RATCHETING UP THE ANTE?

Verdi Today at 7:06 pm
Don't be fooled by the retaliatory fever this afternoon - there appears to be some confusion over yonder about the purpose of an emergency 24/7 contact point for the UK police.  A caller on the end of a telephone line who could be anyone in the world, calling to inquire about a complaint or crime reported - can you imagine the switchboard operator giving out information to an anonymous caller (that is what it would be even if you claimed to be Cristobell or the Queen of Sheba) or putting the call through to a police duty officer to do much the same?  Still, you know that already!

Contrary to what a certain person seems to think, it's not the Samaritans we are talking of here, it's the UK police!  Clutching at straws springs to mind!

Verdi Today at 7:46 pm

Meanwhile Mr. Andrew is fading into the background - you know, the one that made serious threats against Tony Bennett. Not so easy mate, how did you manage to so easily gain information from the UK police about a complaint made against you? Has the duty officer now got a greasy palm or are you just naturally persuasive? Neither I bet!

Some years ago a couple of police officers turned up on my doorstep wishing to talk to me in connection with a nationwide fraud case. I had already left for work but on arrival I received a telephone call requesting my presence at the local cop shop for interview. Even though clearly a suspect at this stage, I was not advised to be accompanied by my solicitor (just as well cos I didn't have one - why should I?), off I toddled to the station where a formal statement was taken - still without a solicitor.

Methinks some people either live in a world of fantasy or they watch too much television - or maybe they just think we are all stupid.

Truthiness2 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:27 pm

Didn't she once write that she has a get out of jail free card due to a diagnosis from two of the country's best psychiatrists? Did I dream that?

Isn't accusing people of p.a.e.d.o.philia, or allowing someone to accuse someone of being one on your blog, a 'ploy used by bullies the world over'?

Did Mutton ever stop to consider if the McCanns, having endured 8 years of death threats, stalking and constant harassment via blogs like hers, might been driven to suicide? Or are they immune?

She allowed a vile comment to stand on her blog. The person it was aimed at took action. And she's the one complaining? She's the victim? Really?

And how does she respond? By talking about Bennett's 'anus' and 'attractiveness' and repeatedly hinting at suicide if people don't stop talking about her. Totally emotionally manipulative - she can say what she likes about everyone else, no matter what impact it has. But if she gets called to account by anyone - friend or foe - it's 'leave me alone or I'll do something stupid'

Verdi Today at 8:11 pm
@sallypelt wrote: "I actually left CMoMM because I was appalled at the stalking and harassment of this innocent [Smith] family"

Well, it actually took her a long time to decide didn't it? Amazes me how anyone can state without reservations that someone is innocent - smacks of the McCann support network. Besides, analyzing witness statements connected with the case of MBM's disappearance hardly constitutes stalking and/or harassment. You only need speak a hint of doubt about any aspect of this case and the word LIBEL resounds across the airwaves. What a load of rollox!
Ms Hutton frequently uses the 'Irish' in her to excuse her behaviour that many find unacceptable. No disrespect to the Irish as a people, I once worked with a young woman (single parent) of Irish origin who regularly used her young daughter (about eight years old) to lie for her, to answer the door and say mummy wasn't available when mummy was off doing something she didn't ough'ta. I also knew a grandmother of Irish origin who encouraged her granddaughter to keep quiet about the fact she (the granddaughter) was being sexually abused by her father. Who knows what goes on behind closed doors. It's utterly ridiculous to assume that all the earths inhabitants are squeaky clean just because it suits your purpose.

If I'm wrong and Ms Hutton has been actively involved with interviewing different people as part of the anticipated Poulton Productions documentary and thus has personal knowledge of the Smith family then I'll eat my words - providing washed down with a peppery Merlot!

Anonymous25 October 2015 at 20:46
Hi, Yes, me again, (Andrew).

Firstly I would like to offer my sincere condolences to Candyfloss. She has put up with so much nonsense of late and does not deserve any of it. I'm sure you will read this and my thoughts and prayers are with you.

Just seen that Tony posted something on his forum. Well in the Verdi sock and I quote...

"Meanwhile Mr. Andrew is fading into the background - you know, the one that made serious threats against Tony Bennett. Not so easy mate, how did you manage to so easily gain information from the UK police about a complaint made against you?"

Answer - Tony I spoke to them on 2 occasions (so far) by phone and off to see them Wednesday. Phone number and names, and rank number, supplied on previous post to confirm that. Quite simple thank you.

Cristobell - I know we have not seen eye to eye of late but I do feel for you and the abuse that you receive.

It's quite apparent that the JH forum, Jatyk2 and Stop the Myths etc are all working together.

It's absolutely crazy and sickening.

Take care,

Regards,

Andrew.

Hael » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:16 pm

It's quite apparent that the JH forum, Jatyk2 and Stop the Myths etc are all working together

If by that he means, we all watching how they making utter fools of themselves, then yes. But there is no plot by collective forums to gang up on anyone. The forkers are managing without anyones help to make utter tits of themselves. Each fighting the other to get their time in the spot light.

death dossier site JATYK2 and its' sister group CMoMM.

That is a malicious, utterly groundless and false allegation. Every single time Hutton makes that statement, she is demonstrating to the entire world that she is nothing but a compulsive liar.

And the very idea that JATYK2 has anything to do with not-Bennett's is beyond ridiculous, and further demonstrates just how deranged Hutton is.

She's too stupid for the truth to dawn on her - and her acolytes are no better.

She has repeatedly told lies and made malicious, false allegations about JATYK2

She has repeatedly told lies and made malicious, false allegations about Myths,

She has repeatedly told lies and made malicious, false allegations about not-Bennett's.

All her lies and demonstrably malicious, false allegations are a matter of public record.

Therefore everyone but her deluded girly gigglers know EXACTLY what Hutton is, with her bullying, her endless lying and her attention seeking amateur dramatics. All the people she bullied off MMM know EXACTLY what Hutton is.

Mayhap she should stick to hanging around the car parks of dockside bars, looking for fallen innocents to kick when they're down? It's about all she's fit for.

Re: Sonia Poulton 'Teaser Trailer' out now (4 Oct 2015)
Post Tony Bennett Today at 5:19 pm

Update on police action re Roslinda Hutton and 'Andrew' and possible police action re Sonia Poulton:

1. In case there is any doubt anywhere, both the Crime Reference NUmbers I gave out are correct

2. Just to be clear on another point, a Crime Reference Number is only ever given by police in cases where the informant (in this case myself) has provided sufficient information to the constabulary crime recording team that a criminal offence may have been committed

3. In the case of Hutton, the police gave me to understand that they ARE looking at the Malicious Communications Act and MAYBE also the Protection from Harassment Act

4. In the case of 'Andrew', the threat to kill apparently comes under the Public Order Acts, but the police are also looking at his previous history of stalking and harassment, e.g. 'phone calls in the middle of the night and threats to visit me and 'sort me out'

5. There was a reference to a police 'warning' being given to Hutton. It is customary for many first-time internet offenders and other relatively minor offences to be dealt with by a 'formal warning'. This must be distinguished from a 'police caution'

6. This is what was given to Ian West of Norwich ('muratfan') two years ago after I (and one other person form Norfolk) finally reported him to police for a four-year campaign of the most vile vilification of me on the internet. It succeeded (more or less) in calming him down

7. A 'police caution' is the formal admission in writing that you have committed a crime and therefore becomes part of your criminal record. It avoids the matter being dealt with in the criminal courts. A recent example concerned the conviction earlier this year of ex-Bishop Peter Ball, a serial sex offender against young boys. In 1991, when his crimes were investigated, his friends Prince Charles, the then Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey and many other high-up establishment friends prevailed on the police and the CPS to drop the charges against him in exchange for his signing a police caution.

8. My understanding is that in a case of a breach of the Malicious Communications Act, such as is alleged in Hutton's case, the police will not normally prosecute but will offer the offender the opportunity to take down the offending material, ask him/her to desist, and get them to accept in writing a formal warning, which is recorded but does not give you a criminal record as such. It is usually accompanied by a clear warning by the police that any repetition will result in prosecution

9. The course of conduct followed by 'Andrew' and partly by Hutton in the past year has been on the internet forum owned by 'candyfloss'. The police have the details of the forum and access to its contents and it is likely that they will be looking at the role of that forum as part of their enquiries

10. A very nice lady from Victim Support called me this afternoon in relation to the death threat matter.

SONIA POULTON

A matter of great interest to Sonia Poulton-watchers will take place on Wednesday (28 October) in Wrexham Magistrates Court, where a long-time friend and associate of Sonia Poulton, Royden James Jones, faces charges under the Malicious Communications Act. There is expected to be a sizeable attendance by some of Jones's many victims, some of whom of course are witnesses in the case.

This is mainly, so I understand, in relation to his conduct in running the 'Troll Hunter' blog, with which Sonia Poulton is reported to be connected. She is alleged Admin on this or a related 'troll-hunting' blog - indeed a screen-shot apparently exists to prove this.

It is widely known that Jones is involved in creating fake accounts in the name of people he was targeting. Associated with Royden James Jones and Sonia Poulton at 'Troll Hunter' is a man called 'Haydon', who appears alongside Poulton and her boyfriend Lee Taylor Ryan and former CMOMM member Ann-Kristine Westwood in a photo of five people who attended Brenda Leyland's inquest.

It is understood that both Poulton and Haydon are being investigated by police - possibly by two police forces - in connection with alleged breaches of the Malicious Communications Act. This may be partly connected with Poulton and her boyfriend Ryan being connected with the 'Troll Patrol' blog.

So possibly both the leading ladies involved in the much-trumpeted 'Untold Story' are currently under police investigation for making malicious communications

Dee Coy Today at 6:24 pm

Antonia wrote:
I hope the policemen dealing with this nonsence don't go home and take it out on their wife and children!

I'm guessing TB has referred the police to this forum so they can see the chronicle of Andrew's admissions that he has made phone calls to TB in the past. He also admits he made the one mid-Sunday morning, but only to seek clarification of why TB is alleging he made the earlier threatening one at 5.30, as he is denying that was him.

Could there be another Northerner threatening TB? Perhaps Andrew can prove his innocence - let's see what Wednesday brings.

Does TB really believe Andrew will come and physically threaten him? If Andrew has made threatening phone calls then that is beyond the pale, of course and Andrew must take the consequences. But could anyone really imagine him actually carrying out a threat, if indeed it was he that made them?

But I'm not sure why this forum has been mentioned in Cristobell's case. TB said he'd reported malicious comments on her blog. Now, it appears, he is including Twitter and here. I'm sure I've seen no libel here.

Re: Conversation with Essex Police re libel claim
Post Freedom Today at 6:33 pm

Good point. If the message exists and it can be traced back to Andrew, he deserves everything he gets. He was warned very recently not to phone Tony - even if he promised to be polite - because of the problems it would create for this forum.

I have no sympathy for him at all - and that's even if he didn't say anything threatening.

Re: Conversation with Essex Police re libel claim
Post Cristobell Today at 7:20 pm

I think you have hit the nail on the head Chirpy.

As for his latest nonsense, I wholly agree it is a complete waste of police time and I mentioned that to the police when I telephoned them. I'm not going to waste any more time or energy on it. I am confident that all my writings, wherever they may be, will stand up to scrutiny, I simply don't write things I would be ashamed of. Or indeed, things that are libellous.

Having had a book published and gone through the whole process of 'legal readings', which for any author is like having a crash course in libel law, I have been able to dodge the bullet for 8 years. My angry KF tweet was written under a hashtag, it wasn't direct name calling. But it must be said that is not a solid legal argument as we saw with Sally Bercow and her infamous #innocentface. However, in my favour, I will cite the thouands of pages of abuse and libel towards me on the forum CMoMM and the fact that Bennett had just insulted my dead mother. Bring it on say I. It is about time the police took a good look into the murky, faceless characters libelling and meddling into the lives of innocent people on that forum.

Post Tony Bennett Today at 9:18 pm

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:
It is widely known that Jones is involved in creating fake accounts in the name of people he was targeting. Associated with Royden James Jones and Sonia Poulton at 'Troll Hunter' is a man called 'Haydon', who appears alongside Poulton and her boyfriend Lee Taylor Ryan and former CMOMM member Ann-Kristine Westwood in a photo of five people who attended Brenda Leyland's inquest.

It is understood that both Poulton and Haydon are being investigated by police - possibly by two police forces - in connection with alleged breaches of the Malicious Communications Act. This may be partly connected with Poulton and her boyfriend Ryan being connected with the 'Troll Patrol' blog.

So possibly both the leading ladies involved in the much-trumpeted 'Untold Story' are currently under police investigation for making malicious communications.

I see James Haydon has been welcomed on MMM as mrjnh.

I think the general character of some (not all) of the posters at MMM when contrasted with those here is becoming ever clearer. Sorry to say it, but along with someone who 'phones me in the dead of night with death threats and another who calls me a paedophile and a cottager (and many other things besides) they will now have the pleasure of the company of James Noel Haydon:
xxxxhttps://trollexposure.wordpress.com/james-haydon/ - another 'Sonia Poulton groupie'.

One day there will be quite a tale to tell about those who formed the MMM forum and some of its leading lights - but that is for another day. Meanwhile the police have now made a link between the two alleged crimes I reported - the common link being the Admin team at MMM which promotes them both

Re: Conversation with Essex Police re libel claim
Post Cristobell Today at 9:32 pm

Gutted to see Bennett now alleging that the Admin from here are now being investigated by the police! What a thing to publish at this time, the man is completely without any sense of decency.

Please do not take his latest lunatic rantings to heart Candyfloss and Freedom. He is completely off his trolley - he demands the right to be affronted by pretty much everything. The police really do have better things to do than listen to an obvious crank.

 Joss Today at 4:58 am:   The only thing i see is they have given RH a platform for her hatred of you at that site, and links to her C. Unbound, and her own personal thread there, and her disgusting blog/smear campaign of TB at her site/blog. And woe & betide anyone that tries to question RH about it all, they get shut down immediately, and the thread gets closed down. And still ongoingly they are bashing you there verbally. Certain ones there have never gotten over their intense dislike of you as i see it, and they are still at it.  And there is nothing okay about calling/harrassing someone over the phone in the very early hours of the morning, or at any other time of the day or night issuing death threats. That certain poster should of been banned long ago. But no, they love him and encouraged him to stay, gag! Nor is it okay to falsely label someone a paedophile all over a public forum and allow those type of comments to stand, as RH says she has nothing to hide is unconscionable on her part, and even encourages those sick types of comments by allowing them at her blogsite. They are criminal actions whether MMM forum & RH want to deny it or not, and stick their heads in the sand about it. Just idle chatter, i think not! Talk about Denial.   So yes, the MMM forum have promoted the smear campaign in their own way too, no denying it.

Tony Bennett Today at 7:42 am

SteveP wrote:
Harmless question I have lurked for a couple of weeks but it's a bit like a bear pit so haven't posted prefer Twitter normally but what does all this hostility achieve? Isn't it what TM want shame really as it brings no one nearer to finding provable facts to take the search for MM closer to reality,we all have a theory but no one actually knows for sure so surely anger should be channel led into giving her a voice not each other .

Agreed.

Why is it that CMOMM enjoys good and peaceful relations with two other long-standing Madeleine discussion forums: Missing Madeleine and Maddie Case Files? So far as I'm aware, neither their members, nor ours, ever says a bad word about each other.

Yet, as 'chirpyinsect' frankly admitted last week, candyfloss has permitted and encouraged a campaign of public 'denigration' of CMOMM ever since that forum began in August last year.

If Admin over there could bring themselves to direct their members that this campaign is over, the hostility towards us that Joss described above would end in a trice.

But it seems they cannot bring themselves to do that.

It may or may not be that their campaign of 'denigration' was intended to destabliise and undermine CMOMM.

But despite a handful of our members leaving to go over there, their campaign has clearly not worked, as all the forum stats are UP on what they were a year ago, with over 100 new members joining us in October alone, for example

Sonia Poulton ‏@SoniaPoulton 10h10 hours ago
Can someone in touch with cesspit, you know which one, tell #Bennett to stop his nonsense. I have nothing to do with a court case or a blog.

Re: Conversation with Essex Police re libel claim

Post  chirpyinsect Today at 8:18 am
Message to Bennett. Take this back to the waterhole for all the other hyenas to pick over.

To quote you:
Why is it that CMOMM enjoys good and peaceful relations with two other long-standing Madeleine discussion forums: Missing Madeleine and Maddie Case Files? So far as I'm aware, neither their members, nor ours, ever says a bad word about each other.

Yet, as 'chirpyinsect' frankly admitted last week, candyfloss has permitted and encouraged a campaign of public 'denigration' of CMOMM ever since that forum began in August last year.

If Admin over there could bring themselves to direct their members that this campaign is over, the hostility towards us that Joss described above would end in a trice.

But it seems they cannot bring themselves to do that.

It may or may not be that their campaign of 'denigration' was intended to destabliise and undermine CMOMM.

But despite a handful of our members leaving to go over there, their campaign has clearly not worked, as all the forum stats are UP on what they were a year ago, with over 100 new members joining us in October alone, for example
Tony's post ends here.

I did not say that Candyfloss has encouraged this forum to denigrate your lot. What I said was we were in danger of becoming like the forum we denigrate ( for doing the same thing I was criticising)

You have jumped on the word denigrate with unbound glee in spite of the fact you have threads dedicated to the denigration of Sonia and Cristobell.

Secondly, there were slightly more than a handful of posters who left, or were banned for not toeing the party line, after the campaign of last summer.

You can stop this madness by shutting the Hell up and getting on with what you do best. Namely starting pointless, strawman discussions,  creating ridiculous, ambiguous polls, denigrating the memory of a dead woman, accusing a family of lying, sending countless FOI requests, pestering the police with your childish complaints and correcting Verdi's typos.

Btw, I have not attempted to correct your typos in the above quote. Perhaps Verdi will be along in a moment to return the favour.

parapono Today at 8:41 am
Not going with the flow. Let's wait and see.

Personally I don't take Andrew's actions lightly.
I see the 'take my sollicitor and sort out the Essex police for once and for all on Wednesday' rubbish has been retracted.
Because that's what it was, made up stuff.
It's not the way it works. See my earlier post.

Personally again, if Cristobell was accusing me deleted offensive words ... I'd want that off the internet.
I would try by asking the writer to get those posts off.
I would ask other forums not to put links to the blog where these posts are published.
I would even write to forumotion and to twitter.

If after those efforts the unjust accusations were still up, I would try and get the police involved in this.

I don't see anything amiss with Tony Bennett doing just that.

Just being honest.

parapono

Freedom Today at 8:46 am
Chirpy, it's good that they help each other out at times, as Snook and The Rooster can also confirm.

The goodwill doesn't extend very far elsewhere, alas.

Parapono, I hear what you say. Where has Andrew retracted the part about going to see his solicitor and how do you know it was made up?

P.S. Did you mean this quote from him?

"The same Essex Police that he says is corrupt all the time. I will tell you this now, nothing will come of it. That goes to CB and SP as well. I have now spoken to Essex Police directly on 3 occasions. As well as my Local Police and my Solicitor. It's all a load of rubbish. Yes he has reported it but that report is pretty much in the bin. Have personally lodged a complaint regards to him, so will await news on that. I did say that I would drive down there tomorrow but after a discussion today, then there is really no point. Just yet anyway..."

He says that he's not going to visit the Essex police but not that he hasn't contacted them and others by phone.

parapono Today at 9:04 am

Freedom wrote:
Chirpy, it's good that they help each other out at times, as Snook and The Rooster can also confirm.

Parapono, I hear what you say. Where has Andrew retracted the part about going to see his solicitor and how do you know it was made up?

Freedom, it's in his 'frederick' post iirc

He made up the way things work after a complaint has been made against you.
You can take ten sollicitors with you on your visit to a Police station.
It wont alter the workings of the Police regarding a complaint lodged against you.
That's how it works, how it should work as well.

Just imagine someone abusing you, treathening you.
Imagine you went to the Police and they agreed with you it was 'bad' enough to
officially file a complaint. They are going to look into it, hopefully make it stop.
You feel safer already.
Now what? The perpetrator suspects you went to the Police.
Sooooo he just makes one phonecall, gets called back by the Police
and they tell him exactly what your complaint is all about.
Can you imagine what would happen next?

Again, this is not how it works.

parapono

Cristobell Today at 9:48 am
Tony is doing what he does best, making a mountain out of a molehill. He has lost most of the support he once had, the MSM and the people on twitter consider him to be crank and a nasty one at that. He has no credibility left. He is clutching at straws trying to get publicity about these alleged police investigations, he is desperate for another tabloid front page, (a bit like the McCanns), so he must become a bigger nuisance.

Unfortunately, Bennett is a nuisance who knows his civil rights. The officer assigned to this case has my utmost sympathy, he will have no option but to read Tony's terminally boring, endless diatribes for years and possibly decades to come. Tony demands the right to be affronted, and seeking out reasons to be offended is his life's work. He keeps everything neatly filed away in warehouses full of filing cabinets, each containing A-Z lists of personal information for future malevolent use on every poor sod he has ever encountered. Even, or, especially, his 'friends'. What has he 'got' on them?

JJ Today at 12:29 pm
I must disagree that Bennett knows his civil rights.

If he did, surely he would know that once he agreed in the High Court to a settlement, you are bound by that settlement for life.

To do otherwise is contempt for the legal process.

With civil rights comes responsibilities. TB thinks he can use the law to force his opinions on others, he is deluded.

I trust the officer appointed to the case will inform the High Court of Bennett's continuing contempt.

Re: Updates on Tony Bennett's claims of libel and harassment

Post Cristobell Today at 11:14

Freedom wrote:
There can be no doubt surely that the McCanns have been economical with the truth from day one so I don't agree that Tony had no proof of that.

Can't agree I'm afraid Freedom. When I met Tony I was struck by the fact that he did not believe 100% that the McCanns were involved. For myself, I could not have been commenting negatively about the McCanns if I had even a shadow of a doubt, because it would have been unforgiveable to inflict further pain on the parents if they were innocent.

Effectively, he carried out his campaign against them knowing that he may have been harassing innocent people.

My name has been decimated all over the internet, Team McCann don't simply want to silence me, they want to ensure that I am scorned as a writer and that my books don't sell. Why attack my diet book?

I don't have the resources or even the inclination to take a civil action against the McCanns, but I do have a pretty mighty pen and a rapidly growing audience!

scoobydoo » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:23 pm
It was a loathsome thing rosalinda Hutton wrote in the hash tag, but only because it belittles victims both through the actual word used and the fact she implied that if someone angered her she would make them regret it by falsely accusing them of child abuse as if its so minor a crime it can be just thrown around as an accusation like a cheap insult.

But I have little sympathy for Bennett. The way he has used the term lolita in relation to pictures of Madeleine and the insinuations he has made about normal pictures of a toddler are stomach churningly revolting and beyond the pale. If he does report Hutton I wouldn't be surprised if she used this against him.

He has also made far worse accusations against innocent people going through the worst thing possible, tried to destroy their lives, harassed and stalked people, tried to get information from the investigation handed over to him, reported that he knew details of a child witnesses homework and accused her and others of lying to police, gone to the farm where the McCann's took Madeleine to play, asked a potential witness to send him photos relevant to the investigation, published pictures of individuels security systems etc. Really doesn't have much of a leg to stand on if he then comp!aims to police about people harrasing him as he has made it clear his own behaviour is acceptable so anyone who believes that would surely think he would find the behaviour of Hutton and co is acceptable.