ANOTHER 'JOURNALIST' HAS CONTACTED THE WORST OF THE ANTIS - SO THEY CLAIM

Anthony Bennett ‏@zampos 2h2 hours ago
@StellabyLight From what @SousterRugby said, it looks like @JillyCL & @QUEENdePORTUGAL believed #MarkSouster was a genuine #McCann-sceptic

JillyCL ‏@JillyCL 55m55 minutes ago
@SuppDoc Please knock my name out of your tweets @ Bennett, aka @zampos. This has nothing to do with me! @QUEENdePORTUGAL @SousterRugby

@JillyCL
Yes it does. @SousterRugby says you can vouch for his anti #mccann credentials. Are you calling him a liar?
@zampos

Tony Bennett Today at 9:02 am

@PeterMac wrote:
He can of course read all the threads here, read the research you have published, read the e-book, read the PJs reports, read the archiving report, have a look at the various judgements in the courts of Portugal and of England, discover the official reply...

Some interesting and well-thought-out reaction to this from another place (the Madeleine MCann Mystery forum):

Popcorn wrote: If a journalist employed on a large newspaper was sceptical about this case, I would expect them to do their own research and go to primary sources. In this case they are: the police (UK and Portuguese); Goncalo Amaral; the McCanns themselves, plus anyone else in and around the resort at the time of Madeleine's disappearance.

It seems to me that a journalist on a national newspaper is far more likely to regard online forum contributors as the primary source for a different kind of article: one about online forum contributors.

I'd then ask myself how it would benefit one of Rupert Murdoch's (or any other newspapers) to run an article that would demonstrate that the press had repeatedly promoted the McCanns' story and their fundraising if there was reason to question that story. And this despite large numbers of ordinary members of the public having grave reservations about the case and expressing them online.

Surely it reflects very poorly on the press if those forumites had it right while they had it wrong? What would be the point of newspapers and news channels? How welcome would Murdoch find an article casting suspicions on the McCanns' innocence be, when SKY News put one such doubter on rolling news, declaring her a troll (despite her complete lack of contact with any of the McCanns) until her suicide 48 hours later? If it then turned out that Brenda Leyland's views were well founded, how bad would it look if it turned out that the journalist - instead of listening and investigating those concerns - turned up at her house with a camera crew essentially shouting "Troll! Troll! Troll!" on rolling news until she killed herself.

I have to say, that kind of investigation from a Murdoch journalist doesn't seem at all likely to me.  

JillyCL ‏@JillyCL
@spacesheepy Can you please knock my name out of this speculation. It has nothing to do with me. @K9Truth @QUEENdePORTUGA

Marie Smith His interest in the case only seems very recent..i've gone as far back as i can go on his twitter feed and the first mention of the case is in July this year !!!!!!!!!

Lilian Roche
Lilian Roche is it yet another hidden agenda and more publicity for mccanns

Zora McCartney
Zora McCartney Ugh I could throttle Bennett!! Why would he do this?? It's not the first time this guy has been shafted by gobby antis though, so I'm surprised he'd risk making contact in this way again tbh.

Emily Thorne
Emily Thorne I am livid Zora, I really am that should have been kept confidential and given Mark a chance! He will be hounded now frown emoticon

Marie Smith
Marie Smith When did this happen before Zora?

Zora McCartney
Zora McCartney About a year ago Marie. Not sure if the tweets still exist or if they were on the tag. But yeah, he first started enquiring around this time last year.

Marie Smith
Marie Smith Interesting..thanks...i had a gander on his twitter feed and didn't see anything on it re madeleine til July this year...but that was just his timeline.

Zora McCartney
Zora McCartney Yeah, I don't think he'd have replied publicly but basically some people got word that he was interested and got in touch to belittle his source for and scared him off. Not a nice episode.

Marie Smith
Marie Smith ffs we all want the bloody same thing..this whole faction thing is nuts !!!

Zora McCartney I know *sigh* Bennett publishing his DM though - that's got to cause major embarrassment and scupper any chance of him sticking his neck out any further

Much blah blah follows until:

Zora McCartney Having read the thread on JH, it seems it was Jill who broke his confidence and first put this 'out there'. Surely it could have been kept to a private part of the forum?? Honestly, I give up!! I bet Blacksmith is foaming at the mouth!!

snook Today at 3:19 pm
First of all who & what does this exercise remind us of? No credible journalist is going to expose their project on social media prior to, what he has worded to imply, an exposure of fact and truth

Let's not labour under the impression that every journalist who has written about the Mccanns is not fully aware of the hundreds of anomalies surrounding the gospel according to Gerry & Kate.

This imo is another fishing expedition. If I give him the benefit of the doubt then he may be meaning the facts as we know them surrounding the current investigation by SY don't add up.

This does not happen. Did the ST ask for volunteers to help them expose FIFA corruption? Have they had the nets for whistleblowers out to catch giant energy companies who pollute?

Murdoch isn't frightened of Carter Ruck or the Mccanns, he could buy both a thousand times over without making a dent in his balance sheet.

My instinct is beware! Who puts their prey on notice before going in for the kill?

And BTW, why is he sourcing his research from a person who lives in California?

Lisa Edington Zora, do you know who it was that Mark approached last year?

Zora McCartney
Zora McCartney Yeah but maybe best if I leave it to them to share if they want to xx

Nuala Seaton Jill Havern Mark Souster sent you DMs, which are private messages not public ones, and you and Tony Bennett have published them on your forum, in Facebook groups and on Twitter. Did you have permission from Mark Souster to do that?

Jill Havern
Jill Havern Why don't you ask the person who cloned his account to send me the DM's?

Nuala Seaton
Nuala Seaton Jill Havern Are you saying the messages are fake?

Isabel Oliveira
Isabel Oliveira So let me get this straight, are you saying someone cloned Tony's account or the Journalist's account or both ? Because that is not explicit in the other posts I have seen on facebook and I am getting increasingly confused and , may I add, quite frustrated.

Jill Havern
Jill Havern It's being said that Mark's account was cloned. I don't know if that's true yet.

The Cape Town Stud ‏@DaSteelManUK 3h3 hours ago
Mark Souster is an ex Rugby journalist who is a pal of Brian Kennedy (Rugby Owner) and #McCann pal. Souster contacted McFadden 2 yrs ago 1/2

The Cape Town Stud ‏@DaSteelManUK 3h3 hours ago
2/2 I warned McFadden at the time to be careful, because she was going to meet him to discuss the case. #McCann

Rob1 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:14 pm
Person on another discussion has made a good point. This 'journalist' for The Sunday Times began his message with 'I am a Mccann sceptic..' and offered the names of 2 notorious Mccann trolls as 'vouchers' for his character as sceptic.

An ethic of journalism is impartiality, yet this man stated his position as already biased. Also, the word 'sceptic' is equivalent to 'unbelieving', both of which are without absolute certainty of knowledge (just opinion). Yet Mark Souster speaks of 'truth' emerging if he uses his privilege as journalist to publish his doubts and that of his Mccann troll 'vouchers'.

Is this not an abuse of privilege and a breach of a journalism code of ethics?

Are these leaked private messages not a form of dynamite for the Mccanns in their Leveson campaign?

All day, people have been making jokes about this rugby man and his friendship with 2 notorious Mccann trolls, but biased reporting has cost the media many hundreds of thousands in past years and here is apparent evidence of a British journalist associated with one of the more important newspapers and not only revealing bias, but suggesting a clandestine plan to publish stories which are likely to be hurtful once again.

I think this is much bigger than a mere joke

Mary Martin I knew it was crap,the minute I seen it

Isabelle McFadden
Isabelle McFadden I read it late at night and texted him immediatelly, at first I didnt even notice my name was mentioned until I looked at forum post.

Vanessa Kosik
Vanessa Kosik Crap or not, this man has a life to lead...

Moira Nelson i thought something iffy hes a sports journulist for sky and bbc as well as the times

Mary Martin
Mary Martin I hope he reports it to the police

Isabelle McFadden
Isabelle McFadden Then I though: Goodness if he indeed sent these messages privately, why would they be public?

Isabelle McFadden He called me in the morning in disbelief. He actually didnt quite understand any of it or why it was happening

Irisheyes smiling ™ ‏@LoveRandomleigh 3h3 hours ago
One of McBaddens photoshop jobs no doubt. Self promoting skank. Even claims he rang her

Post Get'emGonçalo Today

@whodunit wrote:
Strange. Is it verified that the DM came from him? Is he claiming someone hacked his account to send you a message? Is he claiming you are lying about the existence of ANY such message?

I don't know. He hasn't said anything to me. I've emailed him and am waiting for a response.

But if he didn't send those messsages, then who did?

I'm being called a liar on facebook though.

Isabelle McFadden Mark retweets and favorites my posts often .. has followed me for over a year now.

Rob1 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:18 pm
Explosive.

If he is sufficiently close to Isabelle Mcfadden to 'call' her in disbelief then it provides the scenario of 'vouching' with credibility.

I think this is a situation of 'caught with fingers in the honey jar' and proceeding to deny culpability.

I hope the person who received the private message has saved them because it looks as though the worm is trying to wriggle from the hook!

Joana Morais don't be fooled Jill, this guy has been playing weird games. edited to add. he was blocked by me on twitter one year ago, that should suffice.

Get'emGonçalo Today at 8:27 pm

@BlueBag wrote:
Perhaps he never expected Jill to post the message and the reaction/advice of the intelligent posters on this forum?

Perhaps this is scorched earth time.

Exactly....he's backtracking at a rate of knots.

Truthiness2 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:38 pm

Isabelle McFadden He called me in the morning in disbelief

He has her telephone number and is so comfortable with her that he feels able to call her up?

sal » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:44 pm
Joana Morais obviously, wonder why he is using Zora/Isabelle McFadden as his mouthpiece
https://twitter.com/real_zm_/status/652546712754606080

Jill Havern Isabelle, i got the messages from him 2 days ago and we all smelled a rat so that's why I put the thread up to get a reaction from him...or whoever sent me the messages.

Joana Morais Is that Isabelle McFadden? (that wum is blocked by me), well then there you go, one of the reasons right there to not trust this Souster guy.

Lisa Edington
Lisa Edington Isabelle just said that Mark claims to have not sent messages to anyone with the content that's been tweeted. So maybe a cloned account?

Joana Morais
Joana Morais nope, it's his account.

Isabelle McFadden Ok, Jill Havern . I think out of respect for the Gentleman that thread should be deleted.

Isabelle McFadden Jill if you message me the email he gave you I can compare

Jill Havern
Jill Havern Or he just didn't expect it to be posted on the internet and he's trying to backtrack. I've emailed him, but I don't suppose I'll get a reply now. I will be making a complaint about him to the NUJ.

Rob1 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:53 pm
Seems like Isabelle Mcfadden is going to bluff CMOMM admin and manipulate the deletion of the thread to protect the reputation of her friend Mark Souster who was revealed in a compromising manner.

Too bad if the Mccanns are already aware of this man's connections with malicious trolls and plans to make a biased article for MSM using their sick imaginings as source.

Verdi Today at 8:06 pm CMOMM
I smell a rat or four! How can any journalist contracted by a specific press organ be able to break ranks by publishing a controversial report about a case that has been suppressed for eight years - most certainly whoever the journalist, they couldn't proceed without the fat controller's sanction and rubber stamp. It would even go to press.

How many more cranks are going to jump on the band wagon with tales of the unexpected before people realize they are being taken for one roller coaster of a ride. This latest revelation smacks of a certain freelance left wing avant-garde journalist, who shall be nameless, with claims of going where no one has dared go before - it's a farce! IF and that is one very big IF, this person is serious I think he should anticipate his life ending prematurely when found dangling from a remote tree in Dingley Dell.

Alternatively, IF this be true - it's not the first time the Sunday Times has made a revelatory insight into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and what happened? Oh yes of course, they were sued adding a few more thousands into the McCann coffers. Now there's a thought..

What is the point of this crazed shite? Looking at it from any angle, what did they hope to achieve?
The only sensible explanation, as far as I can see, is that he did intend to write an article of some kind, but got busted because Jill Havern broke the unwritten rule and posted his DM in Public, and she and Bennett wanted the world to know that they had a tame Journalist on The Times in tow.

Now, McFadden wants the thread deleted and Jilly is saying nothing, probably because they both had their fingers in the pie and are trying to protect him from whatever consequences might arise.

Rob1 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:37 pm

   sal wrote:
   Jill Havern Looks like it some kind of sick hoax.
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How could that be unless his Twitter account was hacked? Private messages can only be sent on Twitter between friends.

The Jill Havern -Get em goncalo account and @sousterrugby are listed in each other's follower list.

It sounds as if this man is now attempting to preserve his reputation because his biased journalism plot involving Mccann trolls was exposed. He cannot now write an anti Mccann report and present it as 'impartial'.

He should be reported to his professional council and revealed to the newspaper who pay him to write impartial reports.

Proof that these two accounts are friends on Twitter and can exchange messages privately. No one can set up a hoax account and sent messages privately to someone unless they agree to be friends first (following).

https://doesfollow.com/abuseofpower/sousterrugby

Truthiness2 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:07 pm

Jill Havern Looks like it some kind of sick hoax.

But, he's intimate with both JCL and McBadden - that's no hoax? So intimate he can ring the troll in America any time he likes?

Where's the hoax?
And he knows and trusts Zora the explorer enough to use her as spokestroll.

It's no hoax.

Rob1 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:22 pm

I agree with you Truthiness. It is no hoax. I agree this unprofessional journalist is intimate with Jillycl and Isabele Mcfadden and as appears, to be conspiring to use his position to represent these views in the Sunday Times

Unfortunately (for him), Jill Havern smelled a rat and referred the private message to Tony Bennett who also smelled the rat and revealed the private message to the world. This was an unexpected consequence and a serious one (for the journalist). Now the conspirators are setting their wheels on fire as they try to excuse the mess - 'It's a hoax' , 'its a misunderstanding', 'he says he has never sent a message to someone called Jill Havern' (this is a lie as proved by the lady herself - why would she lie?). The excuses will be sufficient to convince the less intelligent of the trolls (numerically speaking - most of them).

In the background is a silent Jillycl. She has pulled her shutters down on the matter. I still think Tony Bennett was the target of an expose and that Jillycl was an instigator using information from their previous connections in Labour.

Truthiness2 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:30 pm  'Hello you' is only used between people who really, really know one another. She really, really knows this person. She's normally running at the mouth. Why is she trying desperately to distance herself from this, and thereby throw the Queen of the trolls under the bus?

Hael » Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:14 pm

Maybe this is what happened. Hypothetically ....

McFadden and Mark have a casual friendship on Twitter and by other means of communication (apparently telephone). He supports Amaral, but only retweets a few (by the looks of it no more than about 6 or so) of the forkers anti McCann tweets. It appears his interest in the McCann case is more on a personal level than a professional level. He gets bored with McFadden and contemplates contacting Jill Haverns forum after seeing a tweet about a newspaper removing comments from an article.



He contacts Jill Havern, but she and Tony Bennett are suspicious and blow the lid on the contact by posting up the private messages. Mark realises it will cause great upset with his long standing friend McFadden. He panics, claims his account was hacked and that he never sent those private messages. He tries to keep it sweet with McFadden, but has already dug himself a hole that others are trying to get to the bottom of.

One thing that I can with confidence place on the record is that Mark Souster and Isabelle McFadden/McFabulous have been talking regularly to each other for well over a year, and how well they know each other is proved by Mark Souster apparently being able to 'phone her this morning when this story broke on CMOMM.

Further, I can also disclose that Isabelle McFadden/McFabulous had been actively planning, before the 'outing' of Brenda Leyland, a project involving the publication of a booklet. This booklet was to include a list of questions to, and answers from, key players in the Madeleine McCann case, including the McCanns, the Tapas 7, Brian Kennedy, Goncalo Amaral and Leicestershire Police inter alia. When finished, it was going to be sent to members of the House of Commons.

Isabelle McFadden/McFabulous also made these claims last year:

1. That she had spoken to Brian Kennedy and members of his family. (This could well have been arranged via Mark Souster. She was putting it about last year that Brian Kennedy had become disillusioned with the McCann Team and had left them and was, somehow, 'willing to talk'. Nothing ever came of it. of course

2. That she had been in regular touch with Martin Brunt, by 'phone and by other means, during the days immediately following Brenda Leyland ending her life.

Souster's 'Go Amaral' tweet on 6 October, followed by those three messages the following day, would tend to suggest that he did indeed send those three messages himself on Wednesday, despite his firm denial today. But how he seriously expected to get his paper, the Sunday Times, ever to print a McCann-sceptic story, baffles me - also why he didn't do anything other than chat on the 'phone to Isabelle McFadden/McFabulous for over year and re-tweet three of her tweets?

Rothley Pillowcase™ ‏@RothleyPillow 10m10 minutes ago Ealing, London
@SousterRugby Solve this for me > LAST YEAR > isa-gob told us all YOU approached her ON BEHALF of Kennedy who liked her shite videos #McCann

Rothley Pillowcase™ ‏@RothleyPillow 6m6 minutes ago Ealing, London
@SousterRugby 2/2 THIS week > we learn it's YOU who's preparing a #McCann story > using attention-seeking trolls like isa-gob and puce! ROFL

Truthiness2 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:03 am
You can actually fake a DM message.

I wonder if McBadden and JCL plotted against Tony Bennett?

I wonder if they thought they could get him to open up to a sceptic journalist, and then that information would be published on the net or sent to the McCanns, so that they could take him back to court for breaking his pledge not to talk about the case again. Meaning he would have to pay the rest of that money and would be silenced for good? Bennett would be out of their (jcl and McBadden) hair.

JCL and McBadden wouldn't worry about faking the message because this man is one of them. Knows them really well and hates the McCanns. So he wouldn't be angry at them for using his name to elicit the info that would finish Bennett, if he found out about it.

But Havern ruined it all by publishing the message. It backfired.

The rugby man is shocked, McBAdden and JCL go into damage limitation mode. JCL demands that she not to be mentioned in any tweet regarding the messages. Then goes quiet.

McBadden tries to get the whole conversation shut down.

Rugby man remembers to comment about Rugby.

I think Bennett has had a lucky escape.

Sunday Times, breaks ranks and offers to tell the truth about Madeleine McCann in his newspaper

Post  Tony Bennett Today at 10:51 am

@sharonl wrote:
"My Support for Goncalo Amara"

"The Truth will emerge"

Mark has gone against his superiors and openly admitted that up until now the papers have withheld the truth about Madeleine McCann.

He was taking a big risk with those two online quotes.

This is a longshot, just wishful thinking, highly unlikely but not impossible:

Until now the journalists have not been allowed to write the truth about Madeleine and have therefore probably not researched the case.  Something has changed and Mark has got wind of this.  Anticipating that he soon will be able to post the truth, is he now looking for quick, ready analysed information on the case so that he can get in first.

Unlikely I know, but we live in hope.

I think that may be a very optimistic assessment.

I cannot believe in all seriousness that Mark Souster genuinely believed he had a hope in hell of getting a significant McCann-sceptic piece into the Sunday Times. He knows about the record of the Murdoch titles on the McCann case: the Sun, News of the World, Times (remember David James Smith), Sunday Times - and, last but not last, Rebekah Brooks.  

I noted that on his Twitter account he states: 'back working with the Sunday Times'. And in his Direct Messages to the forum-owner, he also specifically refer to 'my paper, the Sunday Times'.  But actually, as some have noted from his LinkedIn profile, he now has a different business he works for - and has anyone actually seen any recent articles by him? - on rugby, or anything else, in the Sunday Times?

It looks as though Souster did send those Direct Messages to the forum-owner and also did lie in pretending he never sent them.

I think by his own references to the Sunday Times, that actually he is working for the Sunday Times, and has been for quite a while - but on a very different project to the one he was claiming.

I suggest that his professed McCann-scepticism may be a complete fake.  

Three or four retweets of tweets by JillyCL and the 'Fabulous One' plus two words: 'Go Amaral'. And three Direct Messages to the forum-owner. That's all, isn't it?

What else is there? - for a man who is a long-time friend of Brian Kennedy and has been cosying up to Isabelle McFadden and Jilly-Murat-is-whiter-than-white-CL for over a year? Has he contacted PeterMac? Joana Morais? The Portuguese Madeleine researchers? No, not so far as we know.

The forum-owner used her springer-spaniel like detection capabilities to 'alert' to the smell of a dirty great big rat coming down the line on her email.

And as a result we are all a lot wiser about certain things

Rob1 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:48 am
People are asking many questions about the background to The Times rugby journalist Mark Souster's 'alleged; private communications with Mccann trolls.

Are the tweets genuine or faked?
If fake, why?
If real. WHY?
Why was Jill Havern the target?
Was Jill Havern a footstep towards Tony Bennett?
There has been much hatred towards Tony Bennett recently, was this a plot to destroy him?
Why would a respectable journalist involve himself with low level Mccann trolls who have a case history of creating false IDs and photoshopping comments (tweets)?
Why would a respectable journalist risk his reputation to write an anti Mccann article with low level trolls as source providers?
What is the connection between Souster and notorious Mccann troll 'Jillycl' that permitted 'intimate' tweet?

Please add to these questions.

Perhaps a summary of exchanges and the reactions could be provided here? Perhaps moved or copied from the other thread to make them clear to comprehend?

I think there is only a small possibility that the initial tweets are fake, but if this case is proved, deeper questions arise.

Also, will Jill Havern and Tony Bennett yield to Isabelle Mcfadden's demands for their thread of discussion to be removed?

Rob1 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:54 am

Rothley Pillowcase™ ‏@RothleyPillow 24m24 minutes ago Ealing, London
@SousterRugby Solve this for me > LAST YEAR > isa-gob told us all YOU approached her ON BEHALF of Kennedy who liked her shite videos #McCann

Rothley Pillowcase™ ‏@RothleyPillow 20m20 minutes ago Ealing, London
@SousterRugby 2/2 THIS week > we learn it's YOU who's preparing a #McCann story > using attention-seeking trolls like isa-gob and puce! ROFL

sal » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:11 am
https://mobile.twitter.com/sousterrugby
closed?

Chinagirl » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:31 am
Good grief - what a tangled web someone is weaving ...

catkins » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:33 am
I say we leave him to the Trolls.......we know they eat their own.

Rob1 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:13 am
So does deletion of the Twitter account suggest private tweets were genuine?

Jill Havern - claims to receive private tweets from journalist Mark Souster saying he is Mccann sceptic and wants to make connection regarding an article in MSM. Says Isabelle Mcfaddenn and Jillycl will 'vouch' for him. JH smells rat and passes to Tony Bennett

Tony Bennett - makes tweets public and asks questions

Isabelle Mcfadden - has made her Twitter account private. Alleges that she has made alert to Mark Souster and that he telephoned her to ask what is happening.

Jillycl - dismisses her involvement and is silent.

Mark Souster - tweets about rugby and ignores all questions. Allegedly makes statement denying that he has made tweets to Jill Havern and gives permission for this to be published by anti Mccann Facebook leader. Following day - deletes Twitter account.

Why delete Twitter account if he has been the victim of a hoax? Why not use status to condemn hoax and declare innocence of unprofessional behaviour?

Cristobell Author ‏@RosalindaHu 44m44 minutes ago
@Wonderwoody1 @SoniaPoulton Has he? Understandable, he dipped his toe into a lunatic asylum, gawd 'elp 'im, lol. #McCann @SousterRugby

Sonia Poulton ‏@SoniaPoulton 16m16 minutes ago
@RosalindaHu @Wonderwoody1 people must ask why TB always alienates 'sympathetic' journalists. Why do that when media is what is needed?