DISSENTION IN THE RANKS ON CANDYFLOSS'S ANTI-FORUM? BENNETT RATCHETING UP THE ANTE?

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post Resistor Today at 16:01

Brenda committed suicide, apparently, to spite the McCanns.
How is that "fighting for her"?

And every single post about poor wee Madeleine somehow gets twisted round so that ends up being all about CB. But never mind, because that's showbusiness, folks. ROFL. LOL.
How is that "fighting for her"?

Any posts on here with any criticism at all are swiftly deleted. TBH I'm now struggling to tell the difference between here and over the road.

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post susible Today at 16:18

Well I have to agree with Resistor and DFM...All of this nonsense is just about total self promotion and much as I have tried to see the overview of the documentary/ troll interview, in terms of it being about justice for Madeleine..sorry, I can't, I just can't

Waiting for this thread to be locked in 3..2..1

Oh wait, maybe not, it's Cristobell's self promotion platform, so perhaps not..

candyfloss wrote:

It is patently obvious to anyone looking at this thread some here have a total dislike of Cristobell and that is putting it mildy.. This forum is not for your argument with her. It is sounding more and more like another place which you mentioned earlier resistor , and why many came here. They came here for the nice atmosphere and friendly chat which is not being allowed to continue. If you have a beef with Cristobell then take it up by pm or on her blog, this forum is not for your snipes at each other, and not used as a boxing ring. I hope that is clear.

As for moaning about deleted posts I said on the other thread Cristobell has had more deleted than any of you so don't come with that argument. I try to be fair and opened a forum for those unhappy elsewhere, it seems I made a big mistake, some are not happy unless they cause total disruption.

Any more of this and posts will be deleted immediately and those who persist will get a warning.

If you are not happy here, start your own place, go to the other place over the road, which may be more suitable. I hope no one has to go but I am sorry this will not continue here.

Christobell: If you don't like what I write, don't read it! I wouldn't dream of wasting my time reading texts that bore or irritate me, what is the point? If you want to talk about Madeleine, talk away, you are as free to say what you like as I am. Why don't you start a few threads that you personally think are worthy and that deal with this subject in the way in which you want it to be discussed?

I have been working to get the truth of Maddie's disappearance into the public domain this past 8 years and I will continue to do so in whatever way I choose. And it is MY choice, not yours. I won't be hold how to write, or what I can write about by people who don't like me on the internet. As if!

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post Don't Forget Madeleine Today at 5:08 pm

Forget the fact as who is pretending to be who.

The fact is that Cristobell/Hutton made a post where she suggested that Brenda Leyland committed suicide to get her own back on the McCanns.

She then went on to another post to say that Brenda saw herself as Kathy in Wuthering Heights, I forget now the full full ridiculousness of her post as it was whooshed within about one minute of being posted.

However, when CH was confronted by a poster or two as to her idea of why BL committed suicide she went into some flamboyant nonsense that she'd said it for Brenda's sons to read.

I think a number of us had lost all respect for CH by then, whether we had it in the first place or not.

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post Resistor Today at 5:13 pm

I'm not worried, not in the slightest. You can think what you like. And no, it's not aggression, it's disgust at some of the crass, insensitive and childish stuff she posts. Candyfloss has already said that she has had to delete more of Cristobel's posts than anyone else. Doesn't that tell you something in itself?

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post susible Today at 5:30 pm

Hmmm okay Candy, I do respect you and Freedom for all the work you have put in, and do appreciate it. However, it seems that you cannot see the how those of us who do disagree or have questions to ask, are often treated when it comes to the somewhat sensitive subject of cristobell and sonia

As I said in my previous post, I don't really need a forum as I have a strong belief that Grange are trying to resolve the case, at which point, the whole charade will be knocked down for all to see, It it is a whitewash, or without conclusion, as I said the other day, then there is nothing that any of us can do about it, and, as I said in my previous post, I will simply get on with my life, accepting what I cannot change, yet knowing what I believe to be true.

Goodbye

CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post  Cristobell Today at 16:11

Resistor wrote:
Brenda committed suicide, apparently, to spite the McCanns.
How is that "fighting for her"?

And every single post about poor wee Madeleine somehow gets twisted round so that ends up being all about CB.  But never mind, because that's showbusiness, folks.  ROFL.  LOL.
How is that "fighting for her"?

Any posts on here with any criticism at all are swiftly deleted.  TBH I'm now struggling to tell the difference between here and over the road.

There is nothing to stop you from concentrating on Madeleine, and discussing nothing but Madeleine. Why do you allow yourself to become so distracted by why what I say?

Another comment by a poster.
I've jumped in yet again as I see that HKP has already answered your post, but you may not be aware that Cristobell mentioned in a post that Brenda Leyland committed suicide to spite the McCanns. The post was deleted by admin within a few minutes of it being posted.

However Cristobell went even further after that and said that Brenda was copying Kathy in Wuthering Heights and saw herself as being rejected by Heathcliff. I can't remember the exact wording now as it only lasted for about 2 minutes on the forum before it was whooshed by admin.

Candyfloss-mod:  I don't threaten Resistor, I am just trying to keep this place nice, and have tried over the last couple of days to moderate fairly along with Freedom who does a brilliant job here. Obviously some are not happy and things cannot be resolved can they because you and others do not see eye to eye with Cristobell, and Sonia for that matter. This all started because of the one line that was quoted from her post, which really was not what the blog was about yet it was copied here and underlined as if it was something awful. Sorry, but even if you think a post is crass all this pointless arguing is beyond me, and it makes me wonder why and why not just leave it. There is no favouritism here, you know that, so I will say again, if you are happy here then please continue to post and enjoy the chat, and you are allowed far more here than most places you will have to admit, but I am sorry resistor and anyone else, this forum will not be trashed with such argument and disruption, it is not nice to see.

Member:   I really didn't want to get involved in this but what I would like to say is it looks like we are witnessing the walls beginning to crumble on this previously fantastic forum. We don't all agree with each other and that is as it should be. What would be the point of a back slapping love fest where we all thought the same way.
However, it is clear to anyone that emotions are running high and things are being said that incite retorts even from normally mild mannered posters.
I am all for each and every one of us being allowed to object when we read comments that incense us but we should try not to let personalities get in the way.
Please take a step back everyone before this place implodes.

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post Freedom Today at 6:05 pm

Locking for the moment to allow myself time to read through the last few pages properly. I don't think that my initial reaction will change though - WTF is going on. Certain people should be ashamed of themselves but more likely they're finding all this hilarious.

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post Freedom Today at 6:40 pm

Having now read through the last few pages with increasing amazement, I can add little to Candyfloss's post.

Any further personal comments - regardless of who says them and about whom - will be removed together with the poster.

You won't be missed by me, that's for sure. Anyone who wants to delete their account, google the information from Forumotion.

Re: The untold story of Madeleine McCann - Sonia Poulton
Post Resistor Today at 7:56 pm

i would like an answer to my question please, instead of my post just being deleted.
Am I being accused of "finding this hilarious", or not?

Candyfloss:

I didn't see any names mentioned Resistor. Now please leave it.

Re: The untold story of Madeleine McCann - Sonia Poulton
Post Resistor Today at 8:10 pm

candyfloss wrote:

Resistor wrote:
i would like an answer to my question please, instead of my post just being deleted.
Am I being accused of "finding this hilarious", or not?

I didn't see any names mentioned Resistor. Now please leave it.

So that is not a "no", then.
That is two good, honest posters that you have lost tonight. So far.
I hope it was worth it.

Re: The untold story of Madeleine McCann - Sonia Poulton
Post Hongkong Phooey Today at 9:17 pm

We'll leave it there then Cristobell, I personally don't think Sonia has a hope in hell of getting this documentary on mainstream TV therefore it would be considered as a YouTube type venture and there are plenty of those around at the moment, none having really made that much difference in the grand scheme of things

Re: The untold story of Madeleine McCann - Sonia Poulton
Post Cristobell Today at 5:21 pm

I have responded to the critics on my blog as the quarrels here are being discussed by other forums. If anyone wishes to respond, I suggest they do so directly to my blog in order to avoid disrupting this forum any further.

Please note, while I am happy to publish reasoned arguments, I will not publish personal abuse.

Re: The untold story of Madeleine McCann - Sonia Poulton
Post Andrew Today at 5:25 pm

Good idea CB. Directly to your blog, etc.

Already lost a great poster (Susible), maybe one or two more.

Hopefully no more nonsense here.

Re: The untold story of Madeleine McCann - Sonia Poulton
Post Freedom Today at 5:25 pm

Thank you Cristobell.

I will never understand why some people take such exception to a blogger whom they do not know. I have read articles (not all about the McCanns) which make me wish I had a punch bag to take out my frustration on, but the thought of hurling personal abuse at the writer would not enter my head.

Andrew, the person you mention will certainly not be missed by me.

Don't Forget Madeleine Today at 5:48 pm

Cristobell wrote:

That's it in a nutshell Freedom, they don't know me, that's why I never take it personally.  

Unfortunately, we all know you too well, Cristobell, that's the problem.

Freedom, ban me if you want, I really don't care any more. This forum has become the Cristobell love fest, just because I don't believe in her or SP to amount to anything much in the way of this amazing documentary we're all supposed to be sitting on tenterhooks waiting for, but I'm sorry some of us are not taken in by the whole hype of it all.

Freedom Today at 5:54 pm
No, we don't all know Cristobell too well, DFM.

We are not going to go through a repetition of the appalling behaviour of the last day or so. I'll leave the post that you've just made but any others will be removed.

I dread to think what that "independent" blogger Laz has made of this.

Hong Kong Phooey Hero of the Hour...                                              

From the outside looking in, how it looked:-

In the red corner we had HKP, fighting for the right to voice opinion, fighting to be heard, fighting for all to be treated equally on the forum....and fighting his/her corner, persistent and patient in equal measure - ...hooray, hooray  

In the blue corner, Bad News...boo boo...rude and rotten, trying to silence one and all, and ably assisted by the forum enforcer, Candy (none so blind as she who refuses to see ) Floss!

Round 1 saw the 'thread being closed down' a swift end to those who were clearly being considered dissenters.  

Like those who disagree with McCann abduction tale, the members who disagreed with Bad News were smartly shut down.  

The thread was not re-instated.

Today Round 2 began on, none other than, the Cristobell Blog Thread.  (Is that worthy of a 'lol or three?' hell, why not  - lol, lol, lol,)

Flossy was still of the opinion however, that one and all should listen to Bad News, not make comment, or disagree with her in any shape or form.  If that was their position, they were to keep it to themselves!

On a discussion forum?

Meanwhile back at the ranch - Bad News could do or say no wrong in Flossy's eyes. She was NOT TOLD not at any point that if she disagreed with the point of view of others, that she was to keep it to herself.  No Siree!   Freedom of the Forum was hers!  A one way street! A friend like Flossy handy to have when you want to get bossy, and bully others!

Now why would that be, one rule for Bad News and another, for anyone who dared question her?

Why would it be that those questioning were to be deemed, haters, disruptors, when anyone reading could see that this was not the case at all?

If the blogs blogs of Bad News are to be posted, given an entire section of the forum, then surely members have a right to voice opinion on them, else what is the point?  

It is a forum for discussion, not a platform for one individual to be allowed to dictate to others, no?

HKP in the red corner was having none of that.  Hooray, Hooray

A very nice young lady, a very su-sensible one too, voiced her support of HKP, their right to voice opinion and freely so, she too felt she had the same right to opinion as Bad News.  As did another member who was refusing to be silenced, a resistor no less.

It was hotting up now!

Bad 'I can do and say as I please because I think I'm bonkers, and Flossy is my friend'  News, entered the ring.

The usual LOL'ing around spitting spiteful stuff followed!

Reinforcements arrived!

A cry from Freedom -  for a moderator, one who is meant to act in fairness, treat all members equally -   her words were not wise, fanned the flames:

Freedom:

Locking for a moment to allow myself time to read through the last few pages properly. I don't think that my initial reaction will change though -WTF is going on.  Certain people should be ashamed of themselves but more likely they're finding all this hilarious.

END

The forum fell silent, everyone on tenterhooks as they waited
for Freedom to re-emerge after having given fair consideration to
situation (not really, she'd already made it clear - "I don't think that my
initial reaction will change...!")

Lordy, lordy, some never learn.  Can take horse to water an' all that...

Certain people absolutely should be ashamed of themselves, namely -
Flossy and Freedumb!  

Hell what a shed load -  we all know she meant those decent people
who dared question Bad News, are the ones she feels should be
ashamed of themselves.  No mistaken whose corner she snuck off to,
to sit and read those LAST FEW PAGES.

I for one, as someone looking in, an observer, didn't find the situation
hilarious at all, and I very much doubt those folks Freedumb is
referring to, those members who she said should be ashamed of
themselves (and she ain't including Bad News in that statement)
don't find it one bit amusing as they have nothing to be ashamed of.  

When did it become shameful to ask a pertinent question or to expect
to be treated fairly and equally?

That they have to be silenced while Bad News has freedom
of the forum, is, well...BAD NEWS!

Freedumb did return with more, again, not so wise words, after she'd
read carefully of course the LAST FEW PAGES...then used them to,
yip, fan the flames once more.

I can guarantee anyone of sound mind, a sense of fair play will indeed
find it hilarious, not the situation, but rather, her...well, her findings...


Freedom:

" Having now read through the last few pages with increasing
amazement, I can add little to Candyfloss's post.  Any
further personal comments - regardless of who says them and about
whom - will be removed together with the poster.

You won't be missed by me, that's for sure.  Anyone who wants to
delete their account google the information from Forumotion

END

What a dumbass thing to say!  But then she has defended almost every
vile, senseless word uttered by Bad News, every insult, derogatory
comment, and made excuses for same...

And hell, I'm just guessing, but next time Bad News insults or is rude
to a fellow member - she won't be removed...

And I'm guessing again, that Freedumb is not referring to Bad News
when she says - 'you won't be missed by me!'

Hardly gives anyone thinking of getting on board the
Flossy & Freedumb Forum, incentive to do so!   Frighten them away
I shouldn't wonder!

Flossy, Bossy and Freedumb - what a team!


HKP, Sir/Madam, wisest words came from you today -

"CF (Candyfloss) it does actually matter..."

Well said! - Of course it DID darn well matter, of course it did, you are
spot on. As did it matter that everyone's viewpoint be given an equal
airing without being swiftly removed.  It mattered that you are able to
make comment, question any blog that is posted on the forum without
being shouted down by either Flossy or Freedumb, or indeed the writer
who cannot accept any critique at all, generally responding, referring
to any member who has politely questioned her, as an idiot - what do
they know, they are told, you must be as big an idiot in the real world
as I find you to be on the forum she generally continues.
(pretty shocking stuff I might add) The real world most often is
included in the response.   I rather think the real world  is alien to the
writer.  Oh and the response, to add further insult is always peppered
with the trademark 'LOL'

Bad news folks, is, there is, a common denominator where disruption
has been experienced on certain forums.  Yip it's bad news!

Whilst Freedumb continues to be amazed at what she read.  

Members were utterly dismayed at what they read!  Freedumb's
responding as she did, once again refusing to acknowledge and
address the source of the problem!

Flossy and Freedumb themselves being a huge part of!

If they ain't gonna sort out the obvious issue...choose to remain in
denial, then their little forum will soon bite the dust...

Little friendly advice ladies if I may - wake up smell the coffee!

As one member said - 'it's embarrassing to be a member!'  

Can't argue with that, it made for embarrassing reading!

And what nonsense from Freedumb that those who wish to discuss
this should refrain from doing so until the documentary has aired.

Most everything discussed on forum is based on opinion and to
a huge degree speculation.

So what makes this topic different?  Why have members not to
discuss until it airs?

And no it's not because it might interfere with an ongoing investigation
that is just laughable!  Why post anything at all then if this is the
case?  Why not keep any talk of this documentary under wraps
altogether, not allow it to be mentioned, not allow blogs relating
to it, to be mentioned, not allow them to be posted on the forum?

In fact, why allow any talk of the McCann case on the forum?

What the hell we could all release a documentary after the fact, after
the case is solved, perpetrators caught charged, found guilty whatever!.

The statements made by Flossy and Freedumb in this regard quite
defy logic, common sense, any sense of fair play.

Meanwhile the individual who writes the blogs on said subject/is
involved in documentary can do so, can comment, put forward
any point she wishes, spout any shed load she wants about it before
it airs?

Most agree anything to do with this documentary is not worth writing
home about, but if Flossy and Freedumb are going to post blogs about
it on the forum, and members want to ask questions, day in day out,
about it, voice opinion, where is the harm?

And to say a release date can only be given once the case is solved -

Censorship for some, if ever there was!  Freedom, might want to think
about changing her name!    (more at link, remove xxxx to access)

xxxxhttp://l-azzeri-lies-in-the-sun.com/Hong_Kong_Phooey_Hero.html

18th October 2015

Member to Freedommod:

I don't want to get too personal but is Cristobell/Ros Hutton related to either you or Candyfloss because you both seem to be going out of your way to protect her and anything she says against the posters on this website. You would rather see posters delete their membership than go against anything that Cristobell says.

Very strange......

Re: The untold story of Madeleine McCann - Sonia Poulton
Post Andrew Today at 6:03 pm

I personally dont want any more posters to leave.

I personally suggest that CB just concentrates on her blog.

I personally think CB is not doing this forum any favours at the moment.

I personally dont really want to get involved.

I personally hope we can all get this sorted out.

I personally think, well doesnt matter really.

Good job im on that crappy phone again.

Member:

Well, you can say that and include a bouncy face, but you seem to protecting Ros H over your posters. Haven't your forgotten the disgusting post Ros H made about Brenda Leyland and that Brenda committed suicide to get her own back on the McCanns or have you deleted it from you memory?  

Re: The untold story of Madeleine McCann - Sonia Poulton
Post Freedom Today at 18:05

The streets in some areas must be littered with all the toys that have been thrown out of prams recently.

If people cannot contribute to this forum without attacking other posters, then they are not welcome here.

Hutton:

I'm no fan of yours either Andrew, but I wouldn't dream of joining a gang to get you ousted from here.

Andrew Today at 6:09 pm

You have become a joke and its sad to see.

You are ruining this forum and i dont like it.

Plain and simple.

Re: The untold story of Madeleine McCann - Sonia Poulton
Post Freedom Today at 6:13 pm

I'm surprised at you Andrew. There is no excuse for the behaviour we have seen from some posters recently. It is definitely not Cristobell on this occasion causing problems for the forum.

Re: The untold story of Madeleine McCann - Sonia Poulton
Post candyfloss Today at 6:14 pm

Freedom wrote:
I'm surprised at you Andrew. There is no excuse for the behaviour we have seen from some posters recently. It is definitely not Cristobell on this occasion causing problems for the forum.

That is absolutely correct. I am disgusted with it all, and we can see what is happening.

Andrew, there is no need for this, I am shocked, what exactly has she done in the last couple of days here to warrant this? Take a look back at her postings, they are calm, sensible and not attacking anyone, yet she is being goaded continually.

Post Andrew Today at 6:20 pm

I dont want any problems on this forum. I love this forum. However, ive stepped away and observerd over the last few days and the problems are directly related to CB.

You know me. Im honest and as i said i dont like it.

I dont want any other posters to leave .

I just wish CB would concentrate on her blog thing as opposed to fanning flames here.

Thats just my opinion and sorry if others dont like it.

Re: The untold story of Madeleine McCann - Sonia Poulton
Post Freedom Today at 6:22 pm

You have a point there, Cristobell, but let's keep on topic now.

Any further posts which aren't strictly about Sonia's documentary will be removed. I can't see how there can be any until it is actually released.

Andrew:

No intention of drawing an audience and not bothered if respected or not.

Im here to find truth and justice for M.

No other reason.

Give it your best CB with your personal remarks......

Good girl.

Verdi Today at 7:16 pm
At the risk of getting a slapped wrist again, I cannot and will not shut up on the subject of the Poulton/Hutton alliance. Two things in life I despise above all else are duplicity and lies, two traits this hapless pair have by the bucket load.

I don't often bother to look in on the alternative place (nothing much being discussed on the open forum) but something Mrs Blogs wrote a few days ago made me curious. So since I've being following the Untold Story - Sonia Poulton (as Mark Willis pointed out - emphasis on the untold thumbsup ) thread and can't believe what I see. Not often my jaw hits the deck but really that blind support for the nameless one by the forum bosses is quite literally beyond belief. Can't they even see that the Mrs Blogs domain does not take kindly to criticism - in fact Mrs Blogs declines the publish comments not only when abusive (her claim - I wouldn't know) but also when she doesn't like what's said unless she thinks she can squish or lol. I speak from experience!

If that forum goes belly-up, they've only themselves to blame. As for the nameless one - I'm speechless..

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post Hongkong Phooey Today at 8:49 pm

Are we actually allowed to discuss Cristobell's blogs on the Cristobell's blogs thread?

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post candyfloss Today at 9:00 pm

Hongkong Phooey wrote:
Are we actually allowed to discuss Cristobell's blogs on the Cristobell's blogs thread?

Of course as long as it does not get personal or insulting, and that means both sides. We generally only discuss things to do with Madeline though, other things are not posted and Cristobell has said the latest blogs etc. should be discussed on her blog. I see you are a 'Hero' HKP - bravo

Hongkong Phooey:   No idea what your on about? Hero???
The suggestion of conversing directly with Cristobell is not the best, it's her blog and she decides what gets published and what doesn't (fair enough it's her blog) but you cant really debate if she decides not to let you respond.

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post Andrew Today at 9:04 pm

A lot of posts been deleted. Fair enough.

Lets take this upstairs.... not literally. Lounge would be suffice.

A lot of hassle and trouble of late. Dont like it as have said.

Be good to get it sorted.

CB - please, if you want to get personal with me then do it on your blog and not on here. Thats all i ask.

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post Freedom Today at 9:15 pm

There is unlikely to be any problem with discussing things with Cristobell on her blog.

She replies even to the most insulting and provocative comments.

I'm not suggesting that you would do that though, HKP.

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post Don't Forget Madeleine Today at 9:17 pm

I've pinched this from the "other side", I thought it was very funny (funnier than your bouncy funny faces) -

Flossy, Bossy and Freedumb - what a team!

squish - lol !

Sorry Freedom and Candyfloss but if you ridicule your posters then you have to take the same.

It's all in jest.

I know you have a hard job to do with so many posters with differing views, but please do not treat us all as idiots.

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post candyfloss Today at 9:22 pm

Yes, all jolly good fun eh DFM, just like Cristobell is a relative.......... Laughing

We will stick to what we do here thanks DFM and not be part of a baying mob, I am ashamed to think people would gang up on a person in such a way. Still all fun eh - tally ho.

Now some here want decent discussion, so we will press on.

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post chirpyinsect Today at 9:34 pm

Well I guess this will earn me a slap but it has to be said. I am absolutely shocked at the stance taken by Candy and Freedom tonight.
There have been many subjects that have become heated in the past and admin and mod have done their best to adjudicate as fairly as possible. Not so this time.
It's as if there has been a complete volte face in manner and fair mindedness, even descending into sarcasm and childish roffling about aunties and cousins.
Not like you ladies. I normally admire you both and don't envy you your task one bit, but you have lost 2 posters today that we know of and upset a fair few more in your defence of someone who, by her own admittance, expects and invites criticism.
If the members here can disagree with each other on diverse subjects such as shadows and weather conditions yet still remain civil, why can Cristobell not defend her own actions?
I am not attacking Cristobell by the way although I am not a fan. I'm sure she won't lose sleep over that fact but then nor will I.
Nor am I going to criticise Sonia as I am happy to wait for her doc if it gets aired. However, I am saddened by the ripping apart of this place and the ridicule it has received tonight. I used to be so proud of us here. Now it has gone the way of the place we have been denigrating. Such a shame.
Ps Freedom and Candy. I am sticking here as I really hope this can be sorted out, so please don't take this as a dig at you.

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post Cristobell Today at 9:44 pm

I have answered the questions I can CI and I have explained why I cannot answer others. What more do you want from me? In medieval times, this would be the stage where you would have to put me on a rack and make me 2 foot taller.

I am trying to drum up support for Sonia's documentary. The more people that know the Madeleine story is a cover up, the better. It doesn't matter how the truth gets out there, as long as it gets out there! For 8 years the MSM haven't and won't publish the truth. It is the reason I began commenting on this case and it is the reason I am here now. I want to stand on the rooftops and shout 'hey folks, your fffing government is lying to you - this little girl wasn't abducted!'. I feel kinda passionate about it.

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post candyfloss Today at 9:46 pm

Chirpy, read back Cristobell's posts, she was calm and not said anything bad, yet she was goaded and goaded. We are fair, and have in the past stuck up for others and deleted her posts. What she says elsewhere is not my business, some things I absolutely agree with and some things definitely not, but I do not attack her or say nasty personal things about her.

Please do not tell me there is not a concerted effort to attack both Sonia and Cristobell, it is so blatently obvious. I always play fair, and no matter who it was I would not see a poster being ganged up on for their opinions and certainly not some of the personal comments that have been thrown around. The other place absolutely reeks of hate for her and Sonia, I would like to know why. Okay so you dislike someone's writing, or blogs, or tweets etc., but these attacks are totally unbelievable. WTF is wrong with everyone, why all this venom?? It makes me sad, and to think people were so angry because Brenda got 'hounded' and don't say I shouldn't be comparing because this is almost the same, these ladies are being hounded, and because a few of us are honest and decent and don't like to see it we are attacked too.

This forum is on the side of right, and I believe as does Freedom that the right thing to do is to live and let live.

I really wonder why I bother with this, it is not worth it.

Hongkong to Hutton:

You never let me respond/didn't publish my response on your blog, and don't try to make out it was abusive or whatever, far from it!

BTW. Your 75% of cmomm members left with you and the forum collapsed is just lies (and was part of the response)

Hutton:

No, I didn't publish nor will I. The same goes for the other snidey remarks. I haven't got the time or patience for anymore of your negativity HKF. Life has taught me to walk away from people like yourself.

If you have anything valid to say about the topic of this thread, or indeed the Madeleine case in general, give it a go, but otherwise, I will have to say adieu.

Hongkong:  I get that you care about Madeleine and getting to the truth but just as a little example you said in reply to my post

. " What more do you want from me? In medieval times, this would be the stage where you would have to put me on the rack and make me 2 feet taller."

It has become another example of you being persecuted when I have not resorted to anything of the sort. I have been polite and pretty restrained by saying I am not a fan. Big deal. Not everyone is. I'm sure you know and expect that.
I think that is what gets some people riled when you claim to be the tough talking broad on one hand then play the victim on the other.
Now I am leaving this there as I don't want to fan the flames. Nothing personal, just an observation of how you sometimes come across.

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post Hongkong Phooey Today at 10:12 pm

Freedom wrote:
HKP, where did Cristobell say that about the CMoMM membership?

As part of her reply to me she states"When I left CMoMM. almost 75% of their forum left with me and the entire forum collapsed. " (its in the comments). Her not posting my response is exactly what I said earlier, there was no abuse. I'm going to give you the bit I think she may be claiming is abuse feel free to delete (unfortunately I don't have a copy so its from memory)

"If you weren't crusading for Madeleine then you'd be crusading for some other issue, you agreed this yourself, it's not about what you can do for Madeleine its about what Madeleine can do for you."

Delete, leave as is, ban me or whatever.

Re: CRISTOBELL LATEST BLOGS - in this section
Post candyfloss Today at 10:18 pm

Yes, it is absolute nonsense so I think we will lock this thread until we have something to talk about.

Re: 'Madeleine McCann case' behind Jet2 decision to bar sixteen-year-old girl from flying to Portugal alone
Post Andrew Today at 10:45 pm

For gods sake. . Susible and Resistor, deleted their profiles.

Whats going on...

This is bad.

Re: 'Madeleine McCann case' behind Jet2 decision to bar sixteen-year-old girl from flying to Portugal alone
Post parapono Today at 10:48 pm

I agree with you Andrew.
So sorry to see this happening.

Verdi Yesterday at 10:23 pm
It's no good, I can't resist it..

Paragraph 5

As for myself, my writing and my blogs are read by thousands, including newspaper editors, police, psychology students [she has clearly forgotten to mention the NHS] and ordinary members of the public who like straight talking articles that sort the wheat from the chaff, and give a reader friendly perspective of what is going on. I have studied this case in depth for 8 years!  I know it inside out and upside down and I am quickly able to distinguish between fact and bullshit.  My enemies are, understandably, those in the bullshit category.

That is one heck of a revelatory jaw dropping moment - I quite understand if this is promptly deleted.

As for myself, my writing and my blogs are read by thousands, including newspaper editors, police, psychology students and ordinary members of the public who like straight talking articles that sort the wheat from the chaff, and give a reader friendly perspective of what is going on. I have studied this case in depth for 8 years! I know it inside out and upside down and I am quickly able to distinguish between fact and bullshit. My enemies are, understandably, those in the bullshit category

Aiyoyo of the hounders:

As a matter of interest, how would she know psychology students read her blog?
IPs never show identities, at most rough geographical position.
Anyway, not surprised even if psychology students study her psychology as their homework case study.

Hutton: I don't know if you caught yesterday's matinee, I was being torn asunder by a 'hero' called Hong Kong Fuey supported by several other unimaginative pseudonyms for several hours. They are just a bunch of nasty little scaredy cats, not one of them has the guts to say all those things in their own names! And not one of them, it seems, wanted to talk about Madeleine. They wanted to talk about how people like me shouldn't be allowed! They find my freestyle of speaking offensive, my SOH despicable and my libertarian attitude an affront to everything they know and hold dear.

20 October 2015 at 12:01
Tigger, I was one of the posters who left MMM after last night's antics. I was not banned. I asked for my account to be deleted.
I have followed this case and commented - sometimes quite outspokenly, to be fair - since June 2007. I used to use my real name, but some years ago my employers were contacted by McCann fans, who tried to have me sacked. My children were stalked online, one received death threats. That's why I do not post using my real name anymore, although I continue to comment and offer any small help or insight that I can.
Freedom knew all of this. But last night she saw fit to label me as a troll, only intent on causing disruption, in order to sit behind a computer, finding it "hilarious". It was such a vile, uncalled-for and unexpected accusation that it has completely knocked me for six. I still cannot quite believe it and now I am starting to wonder what it's really all about. I will probably never post on any forum ever again; all my trust and respect for freedom and Candyfloss have been completely destroyed overnight. I don't feel I can trust anyone anymore.
And for what? To enable a self-confessed lunatic attention seeker to run amok, with zero restraint, ruining a perfectly good little forum with her insults, delusions and outright lies. I no longer wanted any part of it, so I left. Only now I have no right of reply anywhere else, so thank you for this.
Resistor.

Anonymous20 October 2015 at 23:09
Lazz/Aquila/Fragrance/Reptile really does need to get doorstepped but it would be better to wait till the McCanns are in jail and Havern/ Bennett are in handcuffs for the Maddie Foundation fraud.
Cristobell and Sonia can then turn up with a film crew and ask her just exactly how much she knew about the Foundation scam.
Bide your time Cristobell you know these people are morally bankrupt chancers

Re: Sonia Poulton 'Teaser Trailer' out now (4 Oct 2015)
Post Tony Bennett Today at 10:46 pm

@Get'emGonçalo wrote:
Wasn't it because she [Cristobell/Hutton] was suspended for 7 days for ignoring a mod's warning to stop disrupting?

I'll make this short, but, no, the origin of this was during the early months of 2014, not many weeks after I suggested that 'Smithman' was fabricated. That was when Hutton began challenging me in forceful terms on CMOMM.

In 2013, Sonia Poulton wrote to Hutton and praised her for her wonderful blog, 'Cristobell Unbound'. That unproductive Skype interview by Poulton of Hutton followed very soon afterwards - and I suggest that the two of them have been in cahoots ever since, and not working to the same agenda as we are. I would further suggest that neither of them has ever sincerely wanted to get to the truth about why Madeleine was reported missing, and it is my belief that in the coming months we will find this to be true.

I also suggest that Hutton deliberately triggered her suspension here in order to commence attacks on CMOMM and myself, for that is exactly what took off after afterwards.

And has been going on incessantly now for 15 months...

Get'emGonçalo Today at 7:20 am

Supported, of course, by our ex moderators (the anonymous) Candyfloss* (who allowed trolls to disrupt this forum, started false rumours about us being able to read private messages* and encouraged our members to delete their accounts*) and Freedom (who admitted to one of our dual-members that she has a list of sock accounts for other people to use here) who all divided this forum and then started their own copycat forum which contained at least 8 threads (many of them locked having reach maximum capacity) that attacks CMOMM.

Also supported by their number one member, Andrew, their "loved" member (who was actually banned from here by candyfloss) who admits to being obsessed with you, has threatened you with violence, has phoned you in the early hours of the morning, and admits to trolling this forum, and who trolled this forum again last night on the 'Petition', 'Sonia Poulton' and 'Smithman' threads with his shit phone then immediately bragged about his shit phone on the CF forum.

And supported by their other members who refer to this forum as a 'cess pit' and call our members 'worse than jihadis' - and 'Auntie' Cristobell, of course, who posts - and publishes - the most outrageous, libellous and totally untrue comments on her blog.

Charming. And candyfloss says we're jealous of her forum!

Hardly any wonder that one of our main researchers, PeterMac, after having been lured into the MMM honeytrap has now walked away in disgust from both forums. Luckily, he continues his investigation "behind the scenes".

Post  Tony Bennett Today at 8:19 am

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

I also suggest that Hutton deliberately triggered her suspension here in order to commence attacks on CMOMM and myself, for that is exactly what took off after afterwards.

And has been going on incessantly now for 15 months....

Supported, of course, by our ex moderators (the anonymous) Candyfloss* (who allowed trolls to disrupt this forum, started false rumours about us being able to read private messages* and encouraged our members to delete their accounts*) and Freedom (who admitted to one of our dual-members that she has a list of sock accounts for other people to use here) who all divided this forum and then started their own copycat forum which contained at least 8 threads (many of them locked having reach maximum capacity) that attacks CMOMM.

Also supported by their number one member, Andrew, their "loved" member (who was actually banned from here by candyfloss) who admits to being obsessed with you, has threatened you with violence, has phoned you in the early hours of the morning, and admits to trolling this forum, and who trolled this forum again last night on the 'Petition'...

...and this happened at just after half past five this morning:

5.32am - Phone rang - both of us woken up

5.34am - Phone rang again, message left by Andrew (I recognise his voice and his Yorkshire accent), the message left was:

Tony f***ing Bennett -
You're a dead man -
I'm gonna come and get yer -
You're a f***ing idiot

So, both us of us woken up, and a death threat. As this is repeat conduct amounting to harassment under the Protection from Harassment Act, I'll be reporting this to the police later today (he has made other 'phone calls in recent weeks, ringing from a 'Withheld' number, and spoke to me on one of those occasons).

I will also report here that Kent Police are currently investigating Hutton under the Malicious Communications Act, in respect of a series of poists on he blog which have publicly accused me of:

* being a paedophile
* being of similar character to Jimmy Savile
* being a deviant, and
* having been cautioned for an offence of 'cottaging' in the 1990s.

I hasten to add that there is not the remotest truth in any of these libels.

I will also state that I wrote to candyfloss, owner of the MMM forum, after Andrew publicly admitted that he was 'obsessed' with me. I asked candyfloss either to ban him from her forum, or to restrain him from carrying on his campaign against me on MMM.  After Andrew admitted his obsession, he said publicly that he thought he should leave the forum in the intersts of MMM.

candyfloss responded by publicly saying 'I love you, Andrew' and begged him to stay. Several other members also said how much they 'loved' him, and his work on the forum, also begging him to stay on the forum. So he has stayed. And continues his personal attacks on me there, day after day

Bennett:
ETA: Just for the written record here, I will add that at 10.48am this morning I received another menacing call from Andrew, which lasted 2 minutes. I have had to take the 'phone off the hook to avoid further disturbance. This is clearly 'stalking'. Again I have reported this further development to Essex Police.

Tony Bennett Today at 10:24 am

Boosey wrote:
Such disgusting behaviour he must have mental problems. He needs to be stopped Tony.

Yes, and in a final attempt to do so, I have reported his campaign of stalking and explicit threatening behavior to Essex Police and supplied them with the ISP address that he normally uses.

In a final attempt to end what 'chirpyinsect' over on MMM publicly called their campaign of 'denigration' (his/her word) of CMOMM and myself by the Admin and members of MMM, I have this morning sent this message to the forum-owner, candyfloss:

Candyfloss, This morning I received two ‘phone calls from your most prolific member, Andrew. In the second one, he left this recorded message which I have now passed to Essex Police to investigate:

Tony f***ing Bennett -
You're a dead man -
I'm gonna come and get yer -
You're a f***ing idiot

Andrew has pursued a course of conduct over nearly two years which I think amounts to stalking and harassment, never mind the explicit death threat. I have had other calls from him recently. Waking me up at 5.32am simply adds to stalking and harassment aspect of his conduct. For the record, as I do intend to pass this information to Forumotion and as well as to the police, Andrew has publicly admitted on your forum to having ‘an obsession’ about me. He also publicly offered to withdraw from the forum. Instead of recognising that Andrew had issues and was potentially dangerous, you said publicly that you ‘loved’ Andrew and begged him to stay, as did many of your members. I drew attention to the many totally untrue things he has said about me and asked you to remove them. You did not, instead retorting that they were ‘mere harmless banter’.

You also continue to accept as one of your members, and promote the blog of,   Rosalinda Hutton, where in recent days, she has labelled me a paedophile, compared me to Jimmy Savile, described me as a ‘deviant’, and publicly - and falsely - accused me of having ben ‘cautioned’ for an offence of ‘cottaging’ in the 1990s. There is not the remotest truth in any of these very public smears.

I have not yet contacted Forumotion as I hoped that as a result of my messages to you - all so far unanswered – that you and your forum might moderate your campaign of ‘denigration’ that ‘chirpyinsect’ recently admitted had been conducted against CMOMM and myself. I had hoped that you might ban Andrew or, at the very least, delete any further comments he makes about me on your forum, in the light of his publicly-admitted obsession. You have failed to act. You promised to remove threads about CMOMM, but some still remain.

I am still willing to refrain from bringing matters concerning MMM to Forumotion’s attention, but again, if you do not act, I will have no hesitation in bringing all these matters to Forumotion’s attention without further reference to you. The police are now involved and you may be asked by them to help with tracing Andrew’s private address.

Finally, you have publicly accused me of bullying you. So that your members can see what I have actually said to you, please feel free to publish all the messages I have sent to you via the ‘Contact’ button

Re: Sonia Poulton 'Teaser Trailer' out now (4 Oct 2015)
Post Tony Bennett Today at 2:37 pm

Joss wrote:
Wow, just wow. This stuff is really just too much. I am glad you notified the authorities Tony. That person is not right in issuing threats and calling people very early in the am. to make threats against yourself and whoever else he has done that to. That's just sick. And as for CB to make such disgusting comments about you on public forums is criminal. I hope it gets all gets shut down promptly, as it needs to be.

Essex Police have issued the following Crime Reference Numbers:

Rosalinda Hutton, address known, Kent: 42/91200/15 - Publicly accusing another of being a paedophile: Malicious Communications Act, currently being investigated by Essex & Kent Police forces

Andrew, surname and address currently not known, Yorkshire: 42/96121/15 - Threats to kill, stalking and harassment: Public Order Act and Protection from Harassment Act, currently under investigation by Essex Police and their I.T. Unit