Harry @Harry_Hampshire 4 hrs
@RosalindaHu This lady, Brenda Roadnight, has spoken, she says it just didn't happen. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/pdp/profile/A3VZOW4748VDM6/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp …
Cristobell Author @RosalindaHu 2 hrs
@Harry_Hampshire Brenda found a lot of opposition when she briefly faced those of us who were actually there.
Harry @Harry_Hampshire 2 hrs
@RosalindaHu Sorry but Brenda is not the one crying wolf here, she has no reason to lie or to defend the nuns. Do the right thing, please
Cristobell Author @RosalindaHu 2 hrs
@Harry_Hampshire Brenda can face me or anyone of us at any time and we will see who is telling the truth. Bored now. feck off.
Sue Surrey @surreysu 26 mins
@RosalindaHu @Harry_Hampshire Certainly not you. Truth bent to suit yourself. It shows! Drama queen liking the attention. Sad #mccann
Harry @Harry_Hampshire 21 mins
@surreysu Pro #McCann must be ecstatic to find that sceptic @RosalindaHu lied about child abuse in her book.That really don't help our cause
Cristobell Author @RosalindaHu 16 mins
@Harry_Hampshire @surreysu #mccanns Must be delighted to have paedophile and child abuser defender like yourself onboard.
Sue Surrey @surreysu 12 mins
@RosalindaHu @Harry_Hampshire throw that remark around one too many times you'll end up in court. Lost the last one didn't you #mccann
Cristobell Author @RosalindaHu 10 mins
@surreysu @Harry_Hampshire He is defending sadistic 'Uncle' caught with 15yr old boy in his bed. #bringiton #mccann
Harry @Harry_Hampshire 4 mins
Crying wolf is almost as bad as paedophilia and rape @RosalindaHu should hold her head in shame for lies against those nuns @surreysu
Sue Surrey @surreysu 2 mins
@Harry_Hampshire @RosalindaHu speaks ill and lies bout nuns and does same with Bennett and others. Lost in court so nuff said #mccann
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OFF AGAIN - DAY TWO
I apologise in advance if I have duplicated anything, there is so much to post up. Sykes
nonymous19 August 2014 23:55
You're obsessed! Obsessed with running Tony down and a forum that has been a valuable source of information and research.
All about YOU! Do you think of the damage you have done? The damage to the credibility of those who have one aim. That aim being to get truth as to the fate of Madeleine.
Hardly balanced the disgraceful actions of yourself, putting YOUR views as though they are fact. Insulting those who have another opinion.
No wonder you are under fire from both pro's and anti's as you put it. You are not showing yourself to be an asset to either!
Anonymous20 August 2014 02:12
Bennet was outed last night being on admin which he always denied.Some followers were shocked!
Snifferdog to the rescue.The only dog on the planet that can,t smell shit when it,s placed in front of it.
Why do I get the feeling that someone is having a wonderful time winding people up?Anonymous19 August 2014 14:15
"It's not about TB pedestal and it's most certainly not about Cristobell pedestal.
"........ place him BACK on his pedestal" - Back? Where had it gone? Did you believe you took over his pedestal momentarily? "
Ah, so you admit he does have a pedestal. One that you will defend tooth and nail by the looks of it.
Anonymous19 August 2014 14:37
It,s inarticulate enough to be Gollum or lj as they be both struggle with the English language to put it mildly.
Have you notice the avators of these two are as ugly as their personalities.
Can,t be jeanmonroe as there are no swear words!
Anonymous20 August 2014 01:47
It was Snifferdog, who next to Bennett must be the biggest crank in there.
Looks like she was sniffing something other than dog food when it was written .
Rosalinda Hutton20 August 2014 02:31
Just to be clear, the assholes on JH were those taunting and baiting in the hope I would respond in such a way as to receive a ban. Aquila, Aiyoyo, Plebgate, Ladyinred and star player and moderator Sharon - diligent devotees of Tony, always on guard, and always in attack mode. The credit on this occasion goes to Plebgate and Sharon, who's sustained two pronged attack ended successfully when I was foolish enough to respond. Oh well, live and learn.
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Rosalinda Hutton19 August 2014 15:17
12:05 Err, my right to reply on that platform was removed, I can't post on there, nor can I read the vitriol that is being spewed about me. And from the number of replies to my post, it seems I am far from the only one who had their right to reply taken away. Unfortunately for the powers that be on Jill's forum, I have my own blog and continue to have a voice. A right denied to all the others who were so unfairly banned.
Anonymous19 August 2014 15:43
Rosalinda - hang in there
right to reply - does mot exist - unless you run your own show - and get able monitors on board
3a folded because Bennett bamboozled the admin - the guy's a cancer
I'm glad you are rid of it
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Anonymous19 August 2014 11:25
Can anyone work out yet how Jill Haverns Forum is financed with almost round the clock full time moderators?
Anonymous19 August 2014 12:18
Made me think when they apologised about all the ads popping up, and was sorry they had no credit card to pay to stop ads. Said was not familiar with paypal.....what utter bollocks
Anonymous19 August 2014 14:49
It's the Media Monitoring Unit made flesh. Not some spotty Kev/Trev/Nev. Big ups to you, Cristobell.
Anonymous19 August 2014 16:56
It's financed by Team McCann and BK. Wish you people would realise.
TB and JH are there to 'disrupt'. It's simple.
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Anonymous19 August 2014 13:43
TB has returned to the circus. He put up a 10 option poll about this blog. It was taken down for some unknown reason Wink
Anonymous19 August 2014 15:26
lol and outed the secret of the inner sanctum. Hilarious.
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Anonymous19 August 2014 17:51
The thing is Team McCann over the years have been very successful in shutting down various forums. However they allowed the Jill Havern forum to originate and continue to this day. TB and JH were all in on it. It's called the wider agenda.
Ex C-R employee.
All will come to light soon.
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Rosalinda Hutton20 August 2014 02:01
Am I reading that properly, you are an ex employee of CR?
Strange that the forum are insistent the investigation is a whitewash and the Smith family didn't see anything, and disputing either results in a ban.
I don't claim to know anything, I don't know how anyone can in this case as we are simply not privy to the evidence, therefore if someone takes an adamant 100% stance on something, it is bound to be suspicious. This case becomes curiouser nd curiouser.
If you, or indeed anyone, would like to contact me privately, my email address is Rosalindhutton@aol.com.
Anonymous20 August 2014 02:24
Ex C-R employee? Hmmm.
By your logic 'they' also allow this blog to stay. Hmmm.
I can't see how the JH forum is part of the wider agenda. They do come up with a lot of good and well researched stuff. Team McCann may allow it to exist so they can monitor it.
There are also some dubious things going on at the JH forum however. Perhaps it is just the nature of such a forum.
Incessant posts about clothing, appearance etc. are allowed to run on and on whilst serving no obvious purpose. These usually start during a dry spell.
The photographs are analysed ad infinitum whilst hardly anything ever comes from it. It usually goes like this: someone questions some anomaly in a photograph. Others add more anomalies. Then some self-proclaimed expert joins in and explains the anomalies away. Usually the same pattern.
A weird post is the one asking if anyone has contacted Operation Grange. If I had contacted Operation Grange, I would not tell the JH forum about it. It is probably totally innocent, but it does remind me of CEOP asking for holiday makers to hand in their holiday snaps to be 'passed on' to the PJ
Anonymous19 August 2014 18:06
JILL HAVERN FORUM NEEDS TO SHUT DOWN AND NOW.
ALL WHO WANT TRUE JUSTICE NEED TO LEAVE
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Cristobell Author @RosalindaHu 4m
@greciandream The volume of replies I am receiving shows the number of people unfairly treated by CMoMM and Tony Bennett #mccann
Cristobell Author @RosalindaHu 1 hr
BURIED BY THE ANTIS, banned members of CMoMM speak out http://cristobell.blogspot.co.uk/ see comments. #mccann
greciandream @greciandream 21 mins
@RosalindaHu See your blog is now, largely, resting place of the trolls by your own admission.Decent posters NOT banned from CMofMM #mccann
JillyCL @JillyCL 12 mins
@greciandream "Decent posters"? LOL. Blacksmith is right: 'Bennett's' forum is a cesspit. #McCann
@RosalindaHu
greciandream @greciandream 4 mins
@JillyCL @RosalindaHu That comment says more about you. Said enough. Truth for Madeleine that interests me, not the ego fighting! #McCann
flyer @basilandmanuel 15 mins
@greciandream @RosalindaHu No such thing as a decent anti. You're all liars #mccann
greciandream @greciandream 5m
@RosalindaHu You conveniently forget the abuse he's had. My how you've changed your tune! You proved to me what you are truly like! #mccann
Cristobell Author @RosalindaHu 4 mins
@greciandream feck all to do with you. You claim to care about Maddie, stick with that. #mccann
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Anonymous20 August 2014 05:23
Hello Ros.
But it's now two years since I christened that site as the cesspit, gave the evidence for the description and appealed to people to leave. The appeal was serious - any member who stayed on there was, and is, colluding in behaviour that is not just criminal libel but, in some cases known to me, criminal full stop.
I'm not criticising you now - but where do you think I was coming from when I made that appeal? Did you think I was making things up? That I was inventing the evidence? Why were your ears closed when the evidence was laid out? Did you seriously think, like the disciples, that I had a vendetta?
Even now you haven't left the cesspit but were thrown out. You really could try confronting those questions.
Best wishes. Blacksmith.
Rosalinda Hutton20 August 2014 06:28
Hi Blacksmith, good to hear from you.
I never thought you had a vendetta Blacksmith, and in fact I have always read your articles with interest. I didn't really understand your dispute with Tony, but now in retrospect, I should have looked into it a bit more rather than bury my head in the sand. It was wrong of me, and I now realise that.
I posted on the forum because I enjoyed the interaction Blacksmith, I like to hear other opinions before forming any views. I had hoped, naively as it turned out, that I might have be able to persuade the more reasonable members on the forum to think logically about the 'lie' Tony was selling them.
I failed of course, but not completely, judging by the number of replies I have received to this blog. People are starting to see I think, how wrong it is to harass witnesses in a major crime, and I tend to agree with you, it probably is a criminal offence.
I won't be returning Blacksmith, even if they allow me to. Tony appears to be 'back' today (did he ever go away?) and he is again laying down the law (in blue) - we are all liars, except him. There really is no reasoning with someone like that and I don't want my name associated with such appalling behaviour.
There certainly are a lot of questions to be asked about that Forum, and I feel a tad stupid that it has taken me so long!
Kind wishes to you Blacksmith, the fight for justice for Madeleine goes on, but that big old tangled web is going to need a lot of unravelling.
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A hohonumty, Neroli or something, I have no idea who they really are:
A few months ago there was a rout. A bunch of people were banned without warning for disagreeing with the favoured purported theories. There's a lawyer speaking member that trolls dissenters into stupid slanging matches and then points at them saying, "They called me a nasty name! They called me 'a bit sharp', when all I said to them was they they're an idiot who is here to make trouble because the are CM in disguise, they think the Smiths are decent people and that the final photo hasn't been photoshopped!!! And, and, and they were also mean to my sockpuppet who logs on at the same time as me and always compliments me on how salient and well expressed my posts are. They said she's inconsistent!!! How dare they!!! I demand a ban. I'll PM you to arrange it [insert moderator name here]." It only happens when particular moderators are on and happened a few times on the say of only one. I was PMed by a regular who held out the hand of friendship, put forward an assessment of TB and then ran back to the mods when I said "perhaps". I think it is quite possible that Christobell was tricked in a similar way. And by the way, PMs are not. The forum owner was looking at PM records to find links so they could ban people justifying it on the basis of 'protecting' the forum. Please. It's a toxic space now for people who don't run the accepted line. I think they've been infiltrated by the pro McCanns and that they have flattered poor Tony into thinking that are on his side. Why go back? Because some of the people on the forums know the PJFiles backwards and forwards. You can get excellent information of the research kind if you can avoid the attention of the empty vessels. Why have I not spoken out before? Because I recognise a futile quest when I see it. Wonder how long this post will last before it's whoosh-clunked. Why speak out now? It just seems relevant.
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Anonymous20 August 2014 07:17
Hi.
Thanks for the courtesy of a very open reply.
As to the future you will have buckets of cess emptied over you for a while. When I investigated Scientology many years ago members who left were officially pronounced "Fair Game".
Everyone knew exactly what that meant but nothing was said openly. There was no need for an official order to harass leavers since it is of the essence of cults that disciples compete with each other to do the bidding of the local cultmaster without being instructed.
Which is, of course, what is happening to you. It will pass.
Best wishes.
B
Anonymous20 August 2014 08:29
Hi Cristobell,
I think we are now witnessing the 'death throes' of the Jill Havern Forum - thanks to Mr. Tony Bennett and his devoted disciples. A great success for the McCann's.
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Anonymous20 August 2014 08:48
I’ve been a member of the JH forum for a few years. When I first joined it was a pleasant forum where people could discuss things and bounce ideas off each other, whether ideas were rubbish or of some value people discussed ideas with some decorum. However, it has now changed into a not very pleasant place, dominated by TB, who seems to like to discredit anyone who has an opposing idea to his “the Smith sighting is a lie” diatribe we get forced down our throats every so often. I’ve thought about why TB is now so dominating and wonder if it is because of his court appearance with the McCanns. He seems to be discrediting the Smith sighting as if his life depends on it, and I’m now wondering after reading many of the posts on this site as if in fact that is the case. Has he sold his soul to the devil and has come to some agreement with the McCanns and their advisers that his costs in the court case would be kept to a minimum if he did as he was told with regard to the JH site and to discredit the Smith sighting and to put focus on RM again.
I have wondered for some time as to whether TB was part of admin on the JH forum as when RD was banned, although I only saw part of why she was banned, but I know there was an argument between RD and admin that RD accused TB of posting from overseas (under another name) when he was on holiday but admin denied that. However, I saw a post from TB either that morning or the day before which showed that TB's post (in his own name) was ahead of UK time by an hour. I thought that was strange at the time but didn't think anything more of it until I read RD's post and admin had denied that TB ever posts when he was overseas. I then realised that admin were covering for TB for some reason. It could be the fact the TB finances the JH's site, that's why he has so much say in it.
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Maybe??????Anonymous20 August 2014 09:10
Sadly the martyr thread seems to have been whooshed but in it's place is a fleffin Smithman 2 thread with individual coaching in blue. It's extra credits as the thread now contains a quiz so best read the thread before you take the quiz because no doubt the results will define what type of member you are categorized as. I'm hoping for an A but you can never tell.
Anonymous20 August 2014 09:20
TB was temporarily banned because he posted parts of a PRIVATE message from another member. I think admin banned him to save face because members were complaining. TB = fleffer. Maybe he is also admin.
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Post PeterMac Today at 9:46 pm
The case has NOTHING to do with Tony Bennett
It has NOTHING to do with Christobell
It has NOTHING to do with me
It has nothing to do with any of you.
It has nothing to do with any of the blog sites, commentators, pro-child-neglect supporters
It has nothing to do with those who support the incestuous child murderers Cipriano
It is to do with the reported disappearance and probable death of Madeleine Beth McCann
On, or before, 3rd May 2007.
Argumentum ad hominem is well known, and is one of the Classical fallacious arguments.
Put simply, the individuals themselves do not matter.
The colour of their skin, their gender, their age, their background and so on are irrelevant.
Their views, and any evidence they may have, is what counts. Nothing more.
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GAWD, THEY ARE STILL AT IT
Anonymous20 August 2014 12:44
Looks like the poster 'Newintown' will be the next one to be shown the door as quite rightly so he stood his ground with TB.
Admin jumped in to say TB is not part of Admin. Yeah right!!
Oh dear Jill and Tony. That forum is an absolute joke now. Looks like everyone is beginning to see what it really is. Yep a cesspit.
Anonymous20 August 2014 14:37
Anybody know what is being said in the members lounge regarding this blog and in particular the very interesting comments being posted?
How are Tony and Jill responding to these, if truthful, serious allegations of just what that forum is really all about?
Anonymous20 August 2014 14:39
Interesting how Logical gets no hearing yet has the biggest voice, silly beyond reason not to listen.
Anonymous20 August 2014 15:49
Tony the menace Bennett is now accusing you Cristobell of sending that email to Rich Hall pretending to be Mr Smith.
My god, what is wrong with that man. What a sad, pathetic, disturbed individual he really is. He is seriously not right at all in the head. He needs to be sectioned IMO. Get help Tony as you will be reading this.
Anonymous20 August 2014 16:12
From JH forum's Smithman 2 thread Wednesday night:
TB says:
There is strong circumstantial evidence that the e-mail purportedly sent by Martin Smith to Richard Hall is a fake - perpetrated by Cristobell.
Words fail me.
Rosalinda Hutton20 August 2014 17:08
Good heavens, I've just read on CMoMM that it was I who sent the e-mail to Richard D. Hall, pretending to be Martin Smith! Yeh, sure it was, because I am that computer literate! ha ha. A bit of a techno genius on the side.
My accuser has only circumstantial evidence thus far, but let him crack him. He'll have me tried and convicted by the morning. He simply has to convince the forum that I work for MI5/McCanns/Clarence/Government (the gov one is an outsider, but what ho), I will be interested to learn what/who I am when I wake up!
But before I bid goodnight, a message to Mr. Smith if you do look in here, I would advise you not to be coerced into replying or doing anything demanded by that man. But I am sure you probably know that.
Investigate away Tony, my life is an open book (quite literally), I have neither shame nor remorse, I've been good, I've been bad, I've had successes, I've had failures. I'm a human being, so I don't beat myself up for living my life and once being young, naïve and mostly stupid. In fact, the memories give me much to chuckle about. Dig away in the wardrobe Tony, and don't forget my sock drawer, let me know if you find anything interesting, I've got a pink sock that's on the missing.
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Bennett is now alleging that hutton sent some email or other to that conspiraloon Hall.
Re: SMITHMAN 2 - What can account for the 17 remarkable similarities between Tannerman and Smithman?
Post Tony Bennett Today at 12:00 am
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:
I must admit to wondering if the e-mail is genuine in view of Mr Smith never having responded to anything said about him before, as far as I'm aware.
REPLY: Indeed. He has stayed silent despite his 'sighting' having been repeatdly queried over the past few months, yet purportedly we are asked to believe that he bought Richard Hall's DVDs, sat and watched them to the end, then calmly sent an e-mail to Richard Hall - using a gmail address - simply denying that he was a friend of Robert Murat. (We know from statements made at different times by Smith that he had known Murat for at least two years and had met him on 'several' occasions)
REPLY: Yes. I am told by a follower of Richard Hall that he has asked Martin Smith, via the g-mail address given, to confirm his identity, but that he has failed to reply. That may have changed by now, if so, then due apologies to Cristobell.Are you able to say anything as to why you think it could have been sent by Cristobell?
However, in the absence of any furtrher information from RichPlanet, the following circumstantial evidence points us to Christobell:
1. She watched the first 3 DVDs and apparently gave them an enthusiastic reception
2. She then saw a reference to the Smith sighting being dubious and some queries about Murat's role in the 4th video and soon afterwards apparently began ranting on her blog that Hall had got this all wrong and that the Smith sighting was genuine (there is a blog post which goes into this in more detail)
3. About the same time as this, Hall got the e-mail and apparently soon put out a 'correction' on his 4th DVD
4. Immediately after that Cristobell apparently exulted on her blog that Hall had been wrong to describe Murat and Martin Smith as friends and had apparently now admitted it on his website
5. Cristobell's vehement belief in the total honesty and integrity of Martin Smith and her crusading zeal to attempt to prove me utterly wrong about him is of course known.
I say all this not knowing the exact sequence of events here as I was away on holiday ('very conveniently' says Cristobell) when all these events took place.
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Anonymous21 August 2014 05:31
I found TB's disciples incredibly stupid. They swallow so much bullshit, reminds me of Stalin rubbishing Trotsky or Big Brother and Goldstein in 1984. How can you debate on such a place when so many think TB can do no wrong.
Anonymous21 August 2014 05:35
Tony Bennett says Cristobell is impersonating Martin Smith!
Tony Bennett is the gift that just keeps giving.
Anonymous21 August 2014 08:27
So fekcing obvious now, with this latest accusation of Cristobell being Martin Smith...Tony will do anything to win or keep the hearts of minds of the sleeple forum members who support or believe this bullshit.
Not that I really care anymore, I can tell you for certain it wont be me being drafted to another of Tony's false crusades. Many of you will carry on throwing crumbs up at him like wedding confetti, whilst he like a fairy cake sits atop of the cakestand. Your all being suckered in....
ChillyHeat...
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Amphibian @TheLargeToad 3h
@RosalindaHu You whining old misery. Get over yourself. No one gives a shit. #mccann
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BURIED BY THE ANTIS - PART II
BURIED BY THE ANTIS - PART II
I hadn't intended to kick off an internet war with my previous post, but it seems a lot of people have a lot to get off their chests. It seems there are a lot of topics that we have been steered away from whilst under the forum umbrella and there are a lot of questions that need to be answered. So much 'new' information has come in via the amazing response to my previous post, and I am beginning to see the extent to which the forum was being manipulated. Divide and rule, those of us with doubts could not speak to each other unless we had the foresight to exchange email addresses.
It is infuriating to be unceremoniously thrown out, without warning or explanation and of course, all rights of reply are removed. That's it, you are being punished and they can say what the hell they like about you. You cannot even email Admin, all lines of communication are cut off.
Jill should have realised that one day, all those people would indeed find a voice and those roads we weren't allowed to go down are now clear - barred topics are open. This is of course just a temporary measure, I'm hoping someone far cleverer than I will be able to set up a new forum.
Meanwhile, I want to know why Tony is going to such lengths to smear me, and other former JH members in order to protect his theory that the Smiths lied and Murat is involved.
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Says it all, doesn't it? Sykes
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What utter hypocrisy, coming from one of the hounders, the very people that entertain themselves by inventing vile filth about strangers, and pronouncing on their 'guilt'.Emma van den Hoek @parapono 2 hrs
@RosalindaHu Dear Cristobell. Go to the police, go to court, sue all that make false accusations about you. If you're right, you'll win. 1/2
Cristobell Author @RosalindaHu 2 hrs
@parapono Long drawn out legal battle with Tony Bennett? #deathbyboredom #hehaslosttheplot #openyoureyes #mccann
Emma van den Hoek @parapono 2 hrs
@RosalindaHu You've been practising long enough. Anything goes. Judge Tugendhat might be quite amused..
Judging is for judges & jury,not 4 U
Colette Croft @collywobbles54 2 hrs
@parapono @RosalindaHu 2. big deal. I can't believe Emma thinks this is a personal matter. Usually with TB it is innuendo against posters
Emma van den Hoek @parapono 2 hrs
@collywobbles54 @RosalindaHu I think these things have to be done legally. If you want justice take a lawyer. no trial by blogging in the UK
Judging is for judges & jury,not 4 U
Not in hateworld it isn't. All 'judging' is done by kangaroo courts, lynch mobs and witch-finders.
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PLEASE, SOMEONE, HELP THE POOR OLD THING
Oh, please God let her try to set up an unmoderated forum.Rosalinda Hutton22 August 2014 03:54
If anyone has the capability of setting up a new forum, and indeed the inclination, can they please let me know?
My novel idea as outlined further up in the comments, would be an 'unmoderated' forum, that is a forum in which comments appear immediately, and posters are not banned! Seriously hate the word 'ban' but will save that for another day.
Is there any way in which to set up the 'framework' of a forum that will run itself?
Before everyone throws their arms in the air in shock horror, it actually works very well. I used to post on the old AOL chat forum and they were completely unmoderated. In 2007, AOL directed those who wanted to discuss the missing Madeleine case to their 'Europe' board. The discussion was supposed to be about all issues relating to Europe, but it became exclusively about the Madeleine case.
The forum did attract its fair share of nutcases, but then so do the moderated ones?
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Posted by Jayelles » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:00 pm
In her mind, the McCanns are on TV and giving interviews to the press every day. In her mind, they are out there begging people for money every day and she thinks this gives her and her pals the right to subject them to a campaign of abuse (or "asking questions") as she perceives it.
In reality, although the Mccann case is often mentioned in the media, the McCanns themselves have hardly uttered a word to the media over the past couple of years. They have been on TV a couple of times when they were raising money for charity, they went on the Crimewatch special about the case and they spoke a few words to the media who followed them to Portugal for Amaral's trial.
They have only ever once ASKED for support for their fund and that was in 2010 just before Kate got her book deal and before Scotland Yard got involved and they were searching for Madeleine on their own.
But we have seen how Hutton twists reality into her own sick and inflated version. On Havern's, she refused repeated requests to discuss the Smiths on the appropriate thread (we all saw it) before apparently telling the mods that she would obey their requests "if she could be arsed". For this she got a week's suspension which no-one would ever have known about had she not chosen to write a blog article telling the world that she had set up by other forum members and then "banned" because she fell for it. I am wondering how other members "set her up" to refuse to keep to the forum rules unless she could be "arsed". Now she is telling us that the McCanns must be behind the forum...
I am reminded if her book and how she stated that she had been physically abused at a children's home. On court cross-examination she was questioned about this alleged abuse and as in her blog article, she described herself as being like a little child. In court, it emerged that she had received ONE beating for sitting in a member of staff's chair and telling him to f*ck off when he told her to vacate it (this was the 1960s when corporal punishment was still the norm). Quite similar to her exit from Haverns really - bad behaviour which gets punished and spun into her being the victim. Despite her claims of years of abuse, it was pointed out at her trial that she had never expressed any disconcert during her regular contact with the social worker whom she admitted to liking and getting along well with. This social worker described her as a happy child. Despute her claim in her book that she had been treated like Cinderella and forced to do laundry and scrub floors well into the night, the only complaint she ever made to the home was that bedtime was too early and that she missed a certain TV programme because if it! She wrote in her book that the book was her revenge for losing her trial. Clearly her blog allegations are her revenge for being suspended. She wrote in her book about how she fantasised about committing suicide to punish the nun whom she hated so much and how she would have revelled in seeing the nun being made to suffer for causing the suicide. What stopped her was the fact that she wouldn't get to see the nun suffer. I think if all the things she wrote in her book, this was the most horrid.
It was evident from reading comments on a forum for former members of the home, that Hutton's allegations were news to many of the others who had been at the home - some at the same time as she was. Some openly protested that she was unfair, others said "I never knew that was going on...." Two joined here to tell us that Hutton was lying. One of those told me that she and a few others wanted to write their own book to correct her lies.
There is a very clear pattern of fantasising with Hutton and she is welcome to do that where it concerns herself. It is just a great pity that she feels the need to fantasise in a nasty way about Madeleine's parents too. And it is sick the way she blames them for making her do it. Same MO as an abuser really.
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Anonymous22 August 2014 08:50
I googled "running a forum without moderators" and apparently it results in chaos.
Remember anyone, when the Mirror forum was infiltrated with porn? Imagine those with a racial agenda? Could result in prosecution.
Some like MSE and digital spy rely on their own posters to report spam etc, but there still has to be someone to remove the offending post.
I wouldn't mind a forum that charged to register,( that alone would keep tight wad out) and had limited operating hours. Rarely do valid posters come on during the night.
Someone on Mutton's blog has an IQ in double figures. Pity.
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Aonymous22 August 2014 14:31
Funny as feck to be honest....It seems CMOMM members seem to be spending more time here than searching for the truth, after of course talking about the disappearing squirrel, or if Kates new dress is photoshopped....
Why the feck do they keep coming here
It must be the traffic....No red lights here BTW....Its all green signals from now on.
If you do decide to come over from the other side,give us the heads up, so I can put the kettle on.....You are welcome. We dont read your PMs or anything.....Oh and we aint paranoid
CH
Tony Bennett22 August 2014 14:37
OK, let me be the first to comment on Part III of 'Buried by the Anti's'
Just before I went on holiday earlier this month, you wrote and asked for my help on a certain matter. In that email, you wrote: "Hi Tony, I hope you are well…I am forwarding you [snipped]…What do you make of this Tony? I know you and I do not see eye to eye on the Smiths, but its not personal as you know, and you are one of the very few people I trust...Kindest wishes".
I replied promptly and fully and there was an exchange of information between us over the next few days. This ended with an email you sent me which said: "Many thanks for your considered reply. It has given me much food for thought and had a wonderful calming effect… Again, many thanks for your help Tony. Kindest wishes".
For about 12 months on CMOMM, you regularly and robustly challenged my often-repeated view that Operation Grange had been a charade and a cover up from the moment it was set up, by Rebekah Brooks, in May 2011. Yet when I came back off holiday a few days ago, I saw you had written that 'It was obvious from the start that Grange was a whitewash'.
So, within a few days, you had totally reversed your previous view that Grange was an honest and sincere attempt to get at the truth about what really happened to Madeleine McCann. And a 'trusted' and 'helpful' friend has now become the subject of a hate campaign on your blog.
I want to ask you if you are all right?
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Anonymous22 August 2014 14:50
Let me break down this post from CMOMM....Its quite funny. Here goes...Stop laughing
Re: Cristobell's hypocrisy!
Post admin Today at 10:14 pm
Before I lock this thread, as the Cristobell drama is so five minutes ago and is in no way helping to discover what really happened to Maddie, I will just add this comment seeing as she is allowing our unwanted cast-offs to post threats of violence towards Tony:
Of course, this will be the unstable Andrew77R at work again.
Anonymous
This has gone on for too long now and is absolutely shocking. It needs to END NOW. Does anyone know where Tony Bennett lives? Somewhere in Harlow I believe. That man WILL GET his comeuppance
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Remember your being told this Cristobells hypocrisy...lol
2 Wow....Its Admin....Now these fuckers are important....Take notice lol
3 feck me....Before I lock this thread....Hang on what the feck does that mean....Does that mean you get the LAST word....Anyway lol
4 Yes Cristobel, your 5 minutes of fame is getting tiresome lol
5 Shit.....Sorry all I for once did forget about Madeleine....sorry, had a lot on my mind lol
6 Im a cast off....Does that mean I didnt get the part in the play ????
7 Oh my Andrew, you naughty boy....lol lol
8 Not another Libel post is this....lol
9 I thought that was deleted fekcing hours ago on this fantastic blog....lol....Indeed it was
10 Look at the signature and fekcing smile.................
CMOMM....Thats your Admin lol
CH
Anonymous22 August 2014 15:16
Just before I went on holiday earlier this month
Yet when I came back off holiday a few days ago
How many days did you say you were away Phony Bennett....Im not buying your newest attempt pal to feck us over.
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Rosalinda Hutton22 August 2014 15:23
Thank you for not revealing the entire contents of my private email to you!
For anyone interested, it was regarding the historic child abuse enquiry. Tony did indeed give me the answers I needed, but perhaps not in the way he thought.
Yes indeed, I trusted you Tony, as did many others. I also offered you the hand of friendship as I feared for your mental health with the stress that you were under. I tried again and again and again, to put forward arguments that would make you see just how unreasonable you were being to those people. You dismissed all of them, and those of everyone else who tried to stop you digging yourself deeper into the mire. You think everyone is out to get you, without realising that you are your own worst enemy.
A number of people reached a crisis of conscience over posting in the JH forum, Russian Doll did the honourable thing and withdrew on principle. I kept my mouth shut even as people were banned left, right and centre, including Marconi, who had the audacity to ask if the forum was based in the UK!
Do you not understand that if you treat a large number of people unfairly, a large number of people will bite back when they get the opportunity. You are blaming everything onto me, when you know darn well the rot set in a long time ago. Look at the response this blog is getting, you have treated so many people so shoddily, you can't now be surprised that they are protesting!
As for my views, I haven't reversed anything. If you read my posts properly you will see that I believe the disappearance was covered up at the START. That is back in the summer of 2007 - not now, now I haven't got a clue what is going on, and neither do you. However, I still have faith in humankind and justice, and from what we have seen from the investigation, it looks pretty darn real.
You should know yourself how frustrating it is to be cut off mid sentence and gagged from saying what you truly believe, yet you pull the plug on posters you dislike for the most ridiculous, and indeed sinister reasons. This is not a hate campaign Tony, these are all the unfinished words of those you so rudely aborted.
And now that you have raised the subject of a hate campaign, I see you have accused me of forging the email to Richard D. Hall. What kind of campaign is that Tony?
Maybe it is time for YOU to answer a few questions Tony, not Mr. Smith.
Anonymous22 August 2014 15:46
So the consensus of opinion here is to express your frustrations by f'ing and blinding? What does that achieve.
Assuming a lot of you (some by admission) are either members or ex-members of Jill Havern's forum did you take the opportunity to express yourselves when participating as an active member, or do you wait for someone else to do the dirty work by starting up a place to air your vulgarity?
Try to remember one thing. I don't know how many members there are registered on Havern's but Bennett is not the only one. There are I'm sure many members who are genuine and not led by any other, why everyone just assumes that because any one person posts on a particular forum that they are part of a cult I shall never understand. It seems to me to be only a reason to justify all the unhelpful comments posted here.
Is it really worth destroying a forum that has been running for a long time, with a lot of good people involved, only for the sake of revenge? Think about it.
Anonymous22 August 2014 15:48
Well said. Another sign of the bad attitude of Mr Bennett was his post about Mr Smith only needing to be courageous and tell the unvarnished truth, put it in the public domain, about his encounter with man and child that night...and speak about his relationship with Murat. Who does Tony think he is. demanding such things? I hope he leaves this place alone and carries on merrily destroying what little credibility the JH forum has left.
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Anonymous22 August 2014 16:01
That forum is destroying itself and driving people away. I had the courage of my convictions and said exactly what I thought before I left and I do not indulge in vulgarity. I do not think anyone who holds the place in contempt should be wasting energy on criticising it, if I am honest, so I won't post again here about it. I understand banned members stating here what they could not there, having no right to reply after being banned/ insulted, but I agree it will go around in circles and once people have got stuff off their chests, it would be good to get back to the case.... it is more important than anything els
Anonymous22 August 2014 16:42
Anon at 16:01 I fully support that.
Once people have got stuff off their chests they should move on, else it will be viewed as malicious and vindictive than anything else.
Cristobel may feel indignant, of her own doing btw, but to carry on bashing JH Forum and to allow her blog as platform for trolls and shills to denigrate JH forum and members isn't going to achieve any thing expect give her a bad name as a woman scorned seeking revenge.
Enough is Enough.
I feel sorry for those genuine ones who were banned. CB I find it harder to sympathy with because of her treacherous behavior. JH had allowed her to promote her blog only for her to use it to destroy as well as encourage the destruction of JH forum that will not go down well in all quarters.
One thing people hate more than anything else is traitor.
That sounds like yoyo.
Anonymous22 August 2014 17:29
The biggest traitor is your Admin...They have eyes in the back of their heads and in your PMs.....fekcing wise up FFS
ony Bennett22 August 2014 16:50
re: "oh dear. Mr Smith and is family received a visit from Brian Kennedy [an unwanted visit] and neither Martin Smith nor his family have had any dealings with Murat or Andy Redwood. I am forwarding that screenshot to Martin for his perusal".
REPLY: OK, now let's have the facts. Martin Smith admitted that he had known Robert Murat for at least '2 years' before May 2007 and had 'met him on several occasions'. Scotland Yard's Operation Grange have released information to say they interviewed Martin Smith 'once in 2012 and once in 2013'. On 14 October 2013 The Met and BBC Crimewatch released TWO e-fits of faces which look like completely different men. Did the Smiths see TWO men?
Rosalinda Hutton22 August 2014 16:59
Tony don't start accusing the Smiths on here. I won't publish what I consider to be libel.
There are many other questions of far more interest to all those who have responded, and those questions surround your determination to discredit the witnesses.
Those are the answers we want Tony, at the moment, many think your reasons are dishonourable.
Anonymous22 August 2014 17:24
Tony....go and empty your mouth somewhere else. I have never ever trusted you....This aint the last 10 minutes on my part...I am a very good judge of character, sorry I am....I know a wrongun when I see one. Now kindly go away and find a 5th forum to destroy. And take that fekcing squirrel with you....He totally does my fekcing swede in.
J J23 August 2014 02:03
I'm sorry but DCI Redwood the chief investigating officer, N.B. not Tony Bennett or Peter Mac, has said on CW the two e- fits are of the SAME individual he said this twice during the programme.
So once again Bennett's facts are worthless just his opinion and now his lies are regurgitated here.
nonymous22 August 2014 16:51
It would be very appreciated if CMOMM members that decide enough is enough would just state their alias name, so it sends a true message that you have had enough. Im not trying to find out who you are, just trying to show that you truly are fed up with the corruption and are willing to start afresh.....Thankyou....It sends a message of I tried to help Madeleine Beth McCann, but you spied on me....You understand what Im asking..You dont have to of course....But it shows your enlightenment smile
I would be over the moon if aquila and Clay joined us...
CH
Anonymous22 August 2014 23:16
Good one CH!
Whatever else comes out of this episode, I doubt it will involve Aquila and I acting in unison....
Anonymous22 August 2014 23:57
Rosalinda I BEG you, PLEASE do no allow that dreadful man a voice here. He has a whole effin forum to spew his nonsense and I for one NEVER want to hear him again. SILENCE him like he did all of us.
Anonymous23 August 2014 02:15
Mr Bennett should be grateful that I have more integrity than he does, or the other forum admin, because something in a PM to me from him clearly showed the extent of his paranoia and mental instability. I would never and will never put this into the public domain, it was shocking. I felt sorry for the man and despite my annoyance at the attitude from him described by Ros, I think he needs help for his mental wellbeing. The first thing he should do is leave the forum and get his life with his family back, instead of immersing himself in the Maddie case to the point of unhealthy obsession. Anyone who can write pages and pages of repetitive speculation about one aspect of the case needs a healthier life. The middle east is up in flames, trouble in Ukraine, police in the US shooting unarmed young black males and he is obsessed about Maddie. Correction, he is obsessed about the players in the affair, not the child any more. He is his own worst enemy and those claiming to by loyal to him seem to be the ones fanning the flames.
Anonymous23 August 2014 02:53
On the other hand nobody asks J K Rowling why she spends thousands of hours writing about goblins or whatever.
You make some good points though
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From Myths, with thanks.
And just how thick can anyone get? So someone, probably Hutton, has been posting up comments supposedly by pros on her blog. If not her, then someone close to her or who wants to cause trouble. Her response was a mouthful of abuse. However, it looks like someone has sussed this out:
Posted by Jayelles » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:24 pm
If Mutton is DUMB enough to let her ex-pal hounders clone other people, then she deserves all she gets. And she'd be well-advised to forget about running her own forum - she's too thick, if she falls for that trick.BB:-
I do NOT post on hateblogs, I just at them.
I want an apology for this:
Rosalinda Hutton23 August 2014 06:12
1. Go to the research yourself
2. Kiss my arse
Incidentally, why are you BB1, a known pro, here defending Tony Bennett?
And if you want a reply published, keep a civil tongue in your head and state your case clearly and reasonably, I have no time for oafs.
Don't hold your breath BB, Hutton doesn't do apologies (which requires character). She has already stated that if she were Tony Bennett, she would not have done the punishment given to him. To an extent I believe that. I do think that if she got a letter from Carter Ruck she would cr*p herself. But I think she is the type who would have to be carried bodily before she would ever go quietly.
And just how thick can anyone get? So someone, probably Hutton, has been posting up comments supposedly by pros on her blog. If not her, then someone close to her or who wants to cause trouble. Her response was a mouthful of abuse. However, it looks like someone has sussed this out:
I would have thought it was blatantly obvious that these are clones. SykesAnonymous23 August 2014 07:32
You do realise these aren't the genuine posters, don't you?
Anonymous23 August 2014 08:31
To keep publishing these comments, and let's be honest here, they're not from BB1, you are encouraging further trolling. I read a few comments back asking people who have been banned from JH to identify themselves. If you are allowing "Anonymous" to pretend to be BB1, Sabot and Lily when they clearly are not, what's to stop them posing as posters on JH?
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It all seems to have gone quiet now the suggestion that all is not as Hutton would have us all believe has been made, doesn't it?
Throws a bit of a shadow over the identities of everyone else posting comments there. Bentit, did he? The others who have identified themselves, have they really?
You have to be clever to tell lies, Hutton.
Throws a bit of a shadow over the identities of everyone else posting comments there. Bentit, did he? The others who have identified themselves, have they really?
You have to be clever to tell lies, Hutton.
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The problem is, when you use the names of posters people know don't post anywhere except on their own forums, and haven't for years, you have to be clever enough to be able to back it up, even with lies.
"They are genuine, you haven't seen the ones I deleted."
Your word, Hutton, just doesn't cut it. No indeed, we haven't seen the ones you happily deleted, why did you do that then? Did they insult you? Why would you publish other insulting comments from them? What could they have said that made you delete them in horror?
Nice to see you even undermining the credibility of your own blog. Not that I ever thought you had any.
As I said, you have to be clever if you are going to be a liar.
"They are genuine, you haven't seen the ones I deleted."
Your word, Hutton, just doesn't cut it. No indeed, we haven't seen the ones you happily deleted, why did you do that then? Did they insult you? Why would you publish other insulting comments from them? What could they have said that made you delete them in horror?
Nice to see you even undermining the credibility of your own blog. Not that I ever thought you had any.
As I said, you have to be clever if you are going to be a liar.