Lizzy Hideho Taylor
PLEASE BE AWARE THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY! Please do not contribute unless you are honestly eager to discuss Pam's opinions respectfully.
Welcome to HDH Pamela Gurney.
Many of you are aware of Pamela Gurney who is, in her words, very "Pro Fairness". I have always got along with her regardless of her effort to discredit my opinions which are based on the police files. I respect that she has different opinions to most of us, but, as opposed to most 'pro' disruptors, Pam is really passionate about her belief in the McCanns not being complicit in the disappearance of their daughter. That is the reason I chose to allow her as a member.
You may notice she has been prolific in 'liking' many posts and has been chomping at the bit to join the group. The first instinct was to refuse, however I feel this is a good opportunity to see exactly why she feels the way she does. I would like to give her a 'voice' on HDH.
Members come first, so please do not visit this thread if it troubles you about allowing Pam into the group and I will not allow arguing from ANYONE.
I have asked that Pam treats everyone with respect and expect all members that choose to participate to do the same.
I am hoping that we can all have a respectful discussion to understand WHY she feels the way she does.
I may find it necessary to ask some members to leave the thread, so please do not join in unless you are confident in your ability to remain respectful.
It may be a good opportunity to remind everyone of the guidelines:
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PAM GURNEY JOINS HoHo'S BUNCH OF KOOKS
Sykes- Posts : 6835
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coco- Posts : 1276
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Ben Thompson That wasn't the sole point of my question, and you know it Pamela. You're avoiding the question, why did Kate and Gerry fabricate the shutter story, instead of search for Madeleine
Heather Hopper To be fair to Pamela Gurney she is being bombarded with questions.
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Joy Sharman IF YOU CANT BE PREPARED TO LISTEN AND REPLY NICELY ...THEN AVOID THIS THREAD YOUR MESSING IT UP
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Pamela Gurney Blimewy people give me a chance for goodness sake!
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Sharon Mehlhorn I think it will take more than a day Ann Selby
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Joy Sharman i understand pamela my eyes are crossing here
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Suzi Wong welcome pamela,look forward to asking you some questions when you have more time to answer and aren't in the middle of dinner,washing or mopping the floors.Truly Just delighted to see you on here.
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Pamela Gurney I try reading a comment and my eyes cannot even focus because the thread keeps moving up!
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Heather Hopper This is a golden opportunity to have a civilized discussion from both sides of the fence, and for those who sit on it. Can we all slow down and allow some answers please, rather than this free for all?
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Pamela Gurney Exactly Joy. x
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Joy Sharman thankyou heather
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Jennifer Targhi Perhaps as you were so eager to join the group you would like to set down in a different thread exactly what your beliefs are and how you came to formulate them Pamela Gurney
coco- Posts : 1276
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he's the hater thats organising their lynch mob , I mean march . thick as sh two short planks .
Broho- Posts : 798
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Another day in anti paradise then? 
Rachel Granada- Posts : 1089
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coco wrote:he's the hater thats organising their lynch mob , I mean march . thick asshtwo short planks .
Yes, the one with the unconvincing comb-forward who is wearing a pair of old curtains round his waist in his profile pic. You would think that men of his age would be out playing sports, meeting up with friends for meals/clubbing/cinema/theatre etc instead of devoting all his spare time to a hate campaign.
Socially inept loser.
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Pamela Gurney The apartment was never cleaned by the McCanns Trev. That is just a myth.
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Clare Simpson nobody can keep up
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Elaine Quinn To the files u say R correct and suggests maddie was abducted
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Clare Simpson ADMIN could only you question Pamela for now coz this is ridiculous!
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Sheila Jones Pamela Gurney For goodness sake. It has livened an otherwise dull page up hasn't it? lol = never a truer, troll word spoken...
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Jennifer Targhi She won't pack it in, she's doing what she came here to do!!
Natalie Barrett Pamela gurney aka trulyjudy in twitter I was at the end of your bullying and stalking recently
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Elaine Quinn Share ur evidence Pam we all have open minds
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Pamela Gurney You are showing yourselves up, not me.
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Trev Weetch So k lies in her book then ?
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Pamela Gurney Ha, I am not on twitter so sorry wrong lady!
Ann Selby PAMELA..... How do you know that... Are you a mccann !!!!
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Elaine Quinn Then answer the questions u are playing with people's minds here
Carl Hansard Going round in circles now. None of this helps Goncalo's libel suit. He did his job and got punished for it. In more ways than one.
Pamela Gurney Sorry I think it is rather the other way. I asked to come on here not to be bullied although I knew it was bound to happen!
Pamela Gurney Maybe Lizzy has but she has promised me a fair debate. I don't think she lied to me did she?
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Joy Sharman I CANT SEE HOW PAMELA CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THERE TOO FAST
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Ann Selby Joy ????
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Elaine Quinn There is no debate u silly woman u won't answer any questions!!!!!
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Pamela Gurney Much too fast and I lose sight of the comments!
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Brett Clarke People need to chill out Lisa, can't we just have a friendly chat about the case?
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Jennifer Targhi But you are not debating are you??
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Christine Silverman 4th rule down - no disrespectful comments to other members. So far, I've been told I "hate" the McCanns and want to see them "jailed over nothing". If that's not disrespect then God alone knows what is. This is a joke.
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Amy Godfrey Joy she could easily pick a question
Pamela Gurney Lizzy promised fairness and I cannot keep up. Names appearing I have never seen here before??
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Lisa Edington Question for everyone....is this achieving anything by being nasty? I'll give the answer...NO!!!
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Jacqui Kendall Williamson your right about opinions but arnt we told to stick to the facts on this site? i feel like im treading on egg shells here im off to watch ghost hunters night all
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Joy Sharman yes but there coming fast amy
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Brett Clarke Pamela needs to put her case forward on a proper post I reckon.
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Conrad Hill Pamela do you have any comments to make which you can back up with evidence or testimony
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Ann Selby Joy ... Where's the insult....
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Debra Hayhoe this appears nothing more than a witch hunt, my my we have really gone back to medievil times.....after the loss of a child under whatever circumstances let alone these....come on, why is there no mention of portugals own huge peaodophile network , you lot have clearly made up your minds already..tbh I feel sorry for you, does not seem a credible thread at all !
Trev Weetch AMIN CLOSE THIS DOWN PLEASE THANK YOU
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Christine Smith There is lots of evidence to support the theory that she died in the apartment. There's also circumstantial evidence that the parents aren't telling the truth and it' sall in the files in black and white. There is no evidence that she was abducted so if Pamela can't give us any evidence of this I can't see the point in her being here. Just my opinion but I won't be wqsting time arguing with her.
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Rachel Clark Im off here and think someone should crawl back under the Stone they came out off.
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Joy Sharman you asked your question then said whoever you are just ask the question is all im saying
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Christine Smith Now I'm going to another thread where we won't go round in circles.
Sykes- Posts : 6835
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Nygel Sylvester pam gurney <<<< f in troll of the worst type.
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Pamela Gurney My case is simple & that is I believe Madeleine McCann was abducted. That is my prerogative and as New Scotland Yard say the same I feel in good company.
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Lizzy Hideho Taylor
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Joy Sharman nigel leave the thread then
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Joy Sharman pamela wheres the proof of abduction
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Nygel Sylvester leaving the group thanks.
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Claire Grevatt This thread isn't achieving anything positive so......
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Lisa Edington Rachael, I think you should leave the thread if there is nothing for you to contribute in a positive way likewise for other members too!
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Trev Weetch Thank you Lizzi
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Pamela Gurney Ok, break time observed Lizzy. Thank you. x
Lizzy Hideho Taylor PLEASE TAKE NOTE..THREAD CLOSED..CONTINUING POSTING MAY RESULT IN MEMBER REMOVAL
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Twitter:
Seeking justice @justice4maddie 2h
@glitter_brain @BlueTennisBag @HiDeHo3 LOTS left when Frances made admin lots more will leave now Gurney welcomed like 2nd coming #mccann
Shhhh! @Wonderwoody1 2h
@justice4maddie @glitter_brain @BlueTennisBag @HiDeHo3 How has this happened. What's their game. Gurney is a rabid pro #McCann supporter
Seeking justice @justice4maddie 2h
@Wonderwoody1 @glitter_brain @BlueTennisBag @HiDeHo3 God knows Woody ,thread closed, bans to be handed out to all who dont tow line #mccann
deborah butler @IWILLNOTGOAWAY 2h
@justice4maddie crikey - they've been ordered not to post anymore or will be removed as member #mccann
Hhoho:
Lizzy Hideho Taylor PLEASE NOTE: I will be compiling a list of your questions and allow Pam time to respond to them all in her own time so you can then determine if you feel she is credible in her opinions.
I like to be fair and we can then see exactly whether we have allowed discussions from both sides.
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Sharon Mehlhorn http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t5835p60-a-message-to...
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Jennifer Targhi That would be good Lizzy. Because I have just googled Pam Gurney.
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Rachel Clark BACK IT UP THEN!
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Christine Silverman Lizzy Hideho Taylor You will also have to make it clear to her that it is NOT acceptable to call people "haters", or claim that people "hate the McCanns", merely because they have a difference of opinion. I actually find that extremely offensive and I can practically guarantee that I will not be alone in this opinion.
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Natalie Barrett Pamela Gurney is a known McCann troll for the parents using abuse and scare tactics to bully
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Jennifer Targhi She will be posting all our comments elsewhere.
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Carl Hansard What did you come up with Jennifer?
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Pamela Gurney I am only known on google because of Anthiny Bennett and there is a very big story there!
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Anne Isherwood She has opined for years on the internet and a quick Google search can lead you to her "opinions" or as I like to call it, "vitriolic abuse". It's like a Rabbi taking a Nazi to the synagogue and then him getting angry because they don't want him as their "special guest".
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Fiona Mcleod Absaloutly agree Sharon Mehlhorn And Val Mulraney out of 437 posts Pamela Gurney has had ample time to give something in return by responding in an intellegent manner and let us know why? she believes ,the McCanns are suffering and her, belief in the abduction.
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Pamela Gurney Sorry Lizzy your group is a lost cause.
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Rachel Granada- Posts : 1089
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This is the kind of brain-dead amoeba that Pam is up against:
Angela Roberts
what kind of mother goes joggin the day after there kids disappearance anyway not a normal one and they should have been done for nelect imo
Angela Roberts
what kind of mother goes joggin the day after there kids disappearance anyway not a normal one and they should have been done for nelect imo
coco- Posts : 1276
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they're scum , the whole lot of them , and they've shown themselves up for what they are tonight .
Rachel Granada- Posts : 1089
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And another thicko who looks like a bloke in drag:
Lucy-angelique Roberts
So Pamela takes the mccanns word on miss translated files??
The only miss translated (sic) files that I know of are those from miss joana morais et al.
Lucy-angelique Roberts
So Pamela takes the mccanns word on miss translated files??
The only miss translated (sic) files that I know of are those from miss joana morais et al.
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Pamela Gurney You are bullies, that cannot be denied. Just look at yourselves! Goodness me!
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Jean Kelly Thank you Liz.
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Lizzy Hideho Taylor I will assemble the comments and request Pam to respond with links/proof/evidence.
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Rachel Clark Thanks Liz
Sharon Mehlhorn Bullies because we seek the truth as to what really happened. NOT SO Pamela Gurney I might also add that unlike many of us here that are prepared to look at both sides of the argument, you are not... that in my view speaks volumes as to your intention.
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Pamela Gurney Not on twitter and usually you never see me since my run in with similar people some years ago.
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Lizzy Hideho Taylor Pamela...Under the circumstances I feel that most have been very tolerant. Many members are very upset about this thread. I apologise for that but I feel its important for our credibility to not be labeled as McCann haters.
We question the files and are inundated with suggestions that we are wrong.
This thread and the resulting compilation will be depandant on whether Pam can back up her claims.
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Pamela Gurney Lizzy has been in discussion on chat with me.
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pippa @PippaBrownp29 2h
Crikey, just had a peek on HideHitler's FB page and they've allowed Pam Gurney on there. Poor woman is being pounced on #vultures #McCann
Judy Truly @TrulyJudy73 2h
@PippaBrownp29 oh has she? Silly of her to get involved with vultures IMO #McCann
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Die Fuhrerin has spoken!
Lizzy Hideho Taylor
Pamela...Under the circumstances I feel that most have been very tolerant. Many members are very upset about this thread. I apologise for that but I feel its important for our credibility to not be labeled as McCann haters.
It's a bit late for that hoho - you have about as much credibility as Walter Mitty and as for being labelled as haters, have you forgotten about when one of your members, Sheila Basher, threatened to shoot Kate McCann at last year's London Marathon?
Lizzy Hideho Taylor
Pamela...Under the circumstances I feel that most have been very tolerant. Many members are very upset about this thread. I apologise for that but I feel its important for our credibility to not be labeled as McCann haters.
It's a bit late for that hoho - you have about as much credibility as Walter Mitty and as for being labelled as haters, have you forgotten about when one of your members, Sheila Basher, threatened to shoot Kate McCann at last year's London Marathon?
Rachel Granada- Posts : 1089
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Hoho's tried to close the thread twice!
Sykes- Posts : 6835
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Lizzy Hideho Taylor STOP POSTING PLEASE!
Natalie Barrett Pamela iris gurney on twitter everyone it's same person so a lie right there
Natalie Barrett Same pic in there as on your Facebook page
Pamela Gurney Well it is not my facebook page and daresay it has something to do with Oaul Rees tbh. He plays jokes on people.
Lizzy Hideho Taylor
Pamela...Under the circumstances I feel that most have been very tolerant. Many members are very upset about this thread. I apologise for that but I feel its important for our credibility to not be labeled as McCann haters.
But that is exactly what they are. They've demonstrated that beyond any doubt whatsoever tonight.
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Sharon Mehlhorn Sorry Lizzy - last one from me in answer to Pamela Gurney question above! Pamela, it might help if you go through the thread, list the questions put to you, and answer each one accordingly not with an opinion but with facts backed by evidence! Sharon. sent via PM to Pamela too!
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Pamela Gurney Can I be bothered?
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Pamela Gurney Lizzy I was entering my comment as that button appeared sorry
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Jennifer Targhi Well there you go!!!!!
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Ben Thompson You could shorten that sentence to "Can I?" Pamela Gurney
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Sharon Mehlhorn Exactly, Jennifer Targhi again, speaks volumes!
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Pamela Gurney sheesh people. You realise your friends & family on facebook see all of this don't you?
Lizzy Hideho Taylor EVERY MEMBER THAT POSTS FOLLOWING THIS MAY BE REMOVED
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Fiona Mcleod The woman is looking for attention again. Do we want her to continue? NO
Lizzy Hideho Taylor ^^^^^^ SEE ABOVE (lol Fiona)
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Jason Stopps Sorry early morning hear in Australia. Just woke up. I read all those posts, Pamela Gurney you did not answer one single question with any facts, links etc. if this was well thought of "having this thread" wouldn't you have all links ready to go, dinner, dishes done and dusted before you commenced. If you can at least answer one of bens questions please. WHY DID THE MCS RING FAMILY MEMBERS SCREAMING THE SHUTTERS ARE BROKEN SMASHED, WINDOW JEMMIED OPEN, A GUSH OF WIND WHOOOSH. WHEN IN FACT ONLY PRINTS FOUND ON WINDOW WHERE KATES. NO DAMAGE TO SHUTTERS AT ALL, NO GUSH OF WIND. ANSWER PLEASE
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Pamela Gurney CLOSED!
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Sharon Mehlhorn With all due respect Lizzy, and I appreciate that you own this page, I feel in doing that that you will loose members??? Best to remove Pamela and wait for her response to you via PM, then post to the group as soon as! I respect your work as do many members here...let that be, but not this. This woman should not be given any exposure here, in my view....just sayin'!!! SO am I banned now? Thanks. Sharon
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Sorry folks, it seems that thread is no more. however it has moved to another one. Off again!
Emma Rogers Wer did the thread go lol
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Claire Richford Please dont talk about anything on this please xx
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Pamela Gurney It got very ugly didn't it? Goodness me I am entitled to my opinion. What good is debating with "yes men & women"?
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Marie Smith I have no intention of going anywhere
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Emma Rogers Was pointless Pamela had nothing of any interest to say
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Pamela Gurney Didn't get a chance really Emma Rogers
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John Shearer Someone looking for attention. Bad call of judgement admin.
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Jean Kelly
There is a woman who has joined this group under a false I.D. her name is IRIS PAMELA GURNEY. (Pamela gurney) her photo and details have been found on facebook +other groups, she has said that she dose not know who this person is and dose not know her. sorry this is the only way I can tell you this ,I am mad at her lies. we have a great group here and this is a stigma against it . jean
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Marie Smith I couldn't give a monkeys backside what anyone's real name is...I don't think anyone should be *outed* whoever they are and whatevr they think...just my opinion.
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Jean Kelly sorry lizzy , if you feel that I am out of order then please remove me from you group. to say I am mad at her lies is a understatement. jean
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Jean Kelly we all read her comment where she said it was not her .
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Lauren Pollack Pamela is annoying but i find it amusing she stalks this group and likes comments without making comments herself but hey ho
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Pamela Gurney And when given the opportunity by Lizzy I am bullied straight away!
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Jean Kelly yes, she denied who she was by name
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Pamela Gurney who did Jean?
Jean Kelly no you were not you told lies as to who you were.
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Pamela Gurney where Jean?
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Lizzy Hideho Taylor NO FURTHER POSTING PLEASE.
Marie Smith sorry lizzy..didn't see your post..apolgies
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Lizzy Hideho Taylor Pam...you are restricted to the thread thats been deleted. Please do not post further
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Genine White I have to disagree Marie, why would you want someone in a group that just wants to cause trouble, I started reading the last thread and Pamela came up with excuses not answers. I was lead to believe that you could only posts facts if you had a link. I did not get to read it all but the comments I read there was not bullying just people getting frustrated that their questions were not fully answered and laughed off
Jean Kelly it stops here and now with you IRIS. END OF MATTER.
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Nikki Walker Well I was confused by the one thread earlier
Other thread:
Pamela Gurney Marie Smithwith all due respect 90% of the threads have never been about what you perceive as facts but about ddragging the Mccanns down because of looks etc.
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Annie Byton Pamela - we have all given you a chance here and have tried to be nice - why cant you do the decent thing back to us and back up your theories rather than disturbing everything on here??
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Pamela Gurney It was very ugly as expected!
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Clare Simpson Once again Pamela thank you,i see your still here
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Clare Simpson Are you still allowed to comment or just like?
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Pamela Gurney Did you see my reply because I can't??
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Pamela Gurney I am not too sure Clare tbh!
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Clare Simpson no cant see a reply,just this one
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Heather Hopper Pamela Gurney, Lizzy asked you to not post on other threads. Thank you. She will be in touch with you regarding the way forward. Thank you for your input. Goodnight.
coco- Posts : 1276
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way forward ? hoho's banned Pam .
Sykes- Posts : 6835
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Lizzy Hideho Taylor
FOR INFORMATION ONLY. NO POSTING ON THIS THREAD
I apologise if allowing Pam to post offended anyone. I have my reasons and will be posting shortly.
PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POST AS IT WILL BE DELETED (and no more posts about Ms Gurney)
Sez she, whose cage was so badly rattled by ONE McCann supporter who barely got a chance to post because of Hoho's howling mob.
And Queen Coward has now banned Ms Gurney.
Broho- Posts : 798
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What plonkers.
darthvodka- Posts : 183
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Why would Pamela even give them the time of day? What a waste of time. It serves only to prove what we already knew. Why even give one of them a shot at credibility and join the place? They have none. We all know this, so should Pamela.