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    Post  WM3 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:41 am

    WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 1, 2012

    Press Release: Cease-and-Desist Letter issued to Gerry and Kate McCann, parents of Missing Madeleine McCann
    PRESS RELEASE

    Gerry and Kate McCann, parents of the missing Madeleine McCann, find themselves for the first time at the other end of a potential legal action. Top defense attorney, Anne Bremner, counsel to the Friends of Amanda Knox and the families of Rebecca Zahau and Susan Cox Powell, has issued a cease-and-desist letter (content posted below) on behalf of American criminal profiler Pat Brown whose book, Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann was removed from sale by Amazon following a claim by the McCanns that the book was defamatory. In recent years, the McCanns have instructed their solicitors, Carter-Ruck, to send numerous cease-and-desist letters to people who have publicly questioned their possible involvement in their daughter’s disappearance nearly five years ago while on family holiday in Portugal.

    Next week on February 8th, retired solicitor Tony Bennett faces English prison as the McCanns’ fight to shut down his efforts to bring focus to aspects of the missing child case that point to the parents’ possible involvement. Also, the McCanns have sued the detective on their daughter’s case, Dr. Goncalo Amaral, for libel and have had his book, Truth of the Lie, pulled off the worldwide market. The trial is scheduled in Portugal for April. Now, Pat Brown has fought back for the cause of freedom of speech and justice, alleging that the McCanns have interfered with her right to conduct business and have damaged her professional reputation with their successful removal of her book from sale. On Monday, Pat will leave for Portugal to continue her quest for truth and justice in the case of Madeleine McCann. The Find Madeleine Campaign operated by Gerry and Kate McCann has spent some 2.5 million pounds on the supposed search for their daughter, Madeline, who vanished in Praia da Luz, Portugal while on vacation with the family nearly five years ago and come up empty handed. Since last May, a 37-man team headed up by Scotland Yard has spent 1.5 million pounds on salaries plus many more pounds following up supposed leads with no sign of success. Altogether, four million pounds has been forked out to locate a missing child with zero results. What, then, does American criminal profiler Pat Brown hope to accomplish with her two week trip to Portugal, beginning next week on February 6, with her small band of assistants and a few hundred euros of her own money?
    She could find the truth. She could find Madeleine. She could find nothing but at least she won’t be costing the taxpayers millions or draining the pocketbooks of kindhearted donators chasing useless leads.

    Pat Brown will be following up on the theory she purported in her Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann, her eBook which was pulled by Amazon at the request of the British solicitors Carter-Ruck on behalf of Gerry and Kate McCann. Amazon was told the book was defamatory in spite of the fact Ms. Brown clearly stated facts in the case, developed a theory based on those facts, and repeated numerous times that she makes no claim that the McCanns are guilty of any involvement in their daughter’s disappearance (other than leaving three children unattended night after night in the resort apartment). Since Gerry McCann clearly stated during the Levinson hearing, “I strongly believe in freedom of speech” and “I don't have a problem with somebody purporting a theory,” it is difficult to understand why the McCanns wanted the book to be repressed except that it was selling well and that the theory she presented was being considered credible by a number of readers.

    During her trip to Portugal, Pat Brown will study the town of Praia da Luz and environs, reconstruct the crime, and examine possible locations as to where Madeleine might have been taken, dead or alive. If she discovers evidence to support a theory other than the one that was the focus of her book, she will pursue that information. She is looking forward to meeting with Dr. Goncalo Amaral, the ex-detective on the McCann case. Meanwhile, it is her hope and that of her lawyer, Anne Bremner, that the McCanns rethink their actions regarding the Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann and instruct their solicitors to have Amazon return the book to the market (now available at Smashwords and Barnes & Noble online).

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    Anne M. Bremner
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    February 1, 2012

    Isabel Duarte
    Carter-Ruck
    6 St Andrew Street
    London EC4A 3AE

    England


    Dear Ms. Duarte,

    In July 2011, American criminal profiler, author, and television commentator, Pat Brown, released on June 15, 2011 a self-published book of thirty-pages on Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk, and Amazon.de, for the price of US2.99. It was titled Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann, sold 850 copies over the next five weeks and garnered 49 nearly all five star reviews on Amazon.uk alone. Then, the book vanished from sale on all three sites. Upon questioning, Pat Brown was informed by Amazon that they had received a communications from Carter-Ruck on behalf of their clients Gerald and Kate McCann that the book was defamatory.

    Mon 7/25/2011 7:27 PM

    Dear Pat,

    We have received a notice of defamation from Carter-Ruck Solicitors that says the content of Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann (UPDATED) B0055WYVCQ, contains defamatory statements regarding their clients, Gerry and Kat (sic) McCann.

    Because we have no method of determining whether the content supplied to us is defamatory, we have removed the title from sale and will not reinstate it unless we receive confirmation from both parties that this matter has been resolved.


    Carter-Ruck can be reached at:

    6 St Andrew Street

    London EC4A 3AE


    T 020 7353 5005


    Best regards,


    Robert F.

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    This was quite a surprise to Pat Brown as she had never received any communications from the McCanns nor their solicitors concerning any defamatory material in this book nor had she ever received any communication concerning any defamatory material in her blogs on the case she has posted online at The Daily Profiler over the last four years. As Ms. Brown is an analyst of evidence, she is careful to not state anything as a fact that is not a fact and to clearly state what is a hypothesis or a theory as opposed to proof. She has publicly and repeated explained to anyone reading her analyses of crime that criminal profiling is a methodology which explores the possible and theoretical scenarios that might be considered as logical based on evidence connected with the crime - forensic, linguistic, or behavioral. Any findings resulting from investigative tools which are not acceptable in certain courts of law (such as cadaver dogs or polygraphs) are noted as suitable for speculation, but not as solid proof of anyone’s guilt or involvement in criminal activities. Criminal profiling itself is an investigative tool and not a finding of guilt as Pat Brown clearly notes in her book.

    Due to the speculative, if analytical, nature of Deductive Criminal Profiling, the methodology used by Pat Brown, she was careful to repeat numerous times throughout her publication that she was not accusing the McCanns of being involved in any crime or in the disappearance of their daughter, Madeleine. She was clearly only “purporting a theory” and exercising “free speech,” both manners of communication Gerry McCann stated he strongly supported under oath at the Leveson Inquiry on November 23, 2011 in London:
    "I would like to emphasise that I strongly believe in freedom of speech, but where you have people who are repeatedly carrying out inaccuracies and have been shown to do so, then they should be held to account. That is the issue. I don't have a problem with somebody purporting a theory, writing fiction, suggestions, but clearly we've got to a stage where substandard reporting and sources, unnamed, made-up, non-verifiable, are a daily occurrence." Gerry McCann

    As Pat Brown also believes in free speech and the right to purport a theory, it would seem she and Gerry McCann are in agreement that any work that purports a theory as opposed to false statements of fact is acceptable under freedom of speech. Pat Brown’s Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann opens up discussion of what happened to the McCann’s daughter, further stimulating interest in the case, and keeping Madeleine in the minds of the public. As the McCanns claim this is what they want, Pat Brown’s book is in accordance with this desire. In fact, it is the McCanns themselves who have clearly encouraged massive interest and speculation on this case. Pat Brown is in no way, therefore, infringing on any wish to keep talk about the case to a minimum.

    By speaking and writing out quite often and in such a high profile manner, the McCanns have succeeded in making Madeleine McCann the most well-known missing child in modern history (since the Lindbergh baby in 1932). They have stimulated debate worldwide as to what happened to Madeleine. They have publicly purported their own theories; that someone took Madeleine because they wanted to raise a child, that she is being held captive in a sex ring, and that a pedophile had taken her. They have publicly disclosed many details of the case and repeatedly told their version of what occurred before, during, and after the disappearance of the daughter. They have discussed their emotions, behaviors, and opinions. Pat Brown is carrying on that discussion.

    Utmost of importance in the entire matter, is the handling and funding of child abduction cases, the prevailing attitudes toward these crimes, and the future of catching child predators. Because the victims are so young and innocent, missing children are among the most publicized cases in the world. In the last three decades with the increase of the Internet and the 24-hour news cycle, awareness of child sex predators and stranger child abduction has radically increased fears of parents that their child will be taken and murdered. In reality, stranger abduction continues to be exceedingly rare for children of Madeleine’s age. Regardless, the paranoia that is engendered when a small child goes missing is a great stress to the community, the police, and resources. Therefore, it is extremely important that each and every case be properly analyzed and understood so that wrong ideas aren’t promulgated and funding and efforts are wasted investigating such crimes improperly. Each child that goes missing is a terrible tragedy for the parents, siblings, relative, friends, and community. Pat has great empathy for any family of a missing child and, most of all, compassion for the innocent young person who has suffered abuse, terror, sexual assault, and, possibly, an early death at the hands of others. yep, so long as she can make mucho $$$$$$ of the back of the story.

    We are requesting that you respect Pat Brown’s right to free speech and to purport a theory as Gerry McCann has stated is not a problem for him. We request that the claim of libel be retracted for the Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann and the book permitted to be returned for sale at Amazon.

    Regards,


    Anne M. Bremner


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    Post  WM3 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:16 am

    Comments re the 'Press Release'.

    Which is in fact a plea that Ms Brown be allowed to continue making money off the back of a missing little girl and her grieving parents. Oh - and fund her hobby, with a holiday to "yurrup" thrown in for good measure.

    My thoughts? It has taken a while. I can just imagine the amount of whining Bremner has had to put up with to persuade her to write that letter.

    She is clearly so "au fait" with the case, and has researched it so well, that she has addressed the letter to Isabel Duarte at Carter Ruck. That will cause a bit of puzzlement there.

    But most important, this is not a "cease and desist" letter - it is a plea for her "client" to be allowed to continue selling her book via Amazon.

    I am sure this will keep us all entertained for a while today. Until realisation dawns in pitchfork land.

    For a proper "cease and desist letter", see Carter Ruck letter to Bennett.

    This entire sideshow has been because of Pat Brown's apparent inability to get her facts right. Time and time again she gets things wrong. She accuses the McCanns on the basis of conclusions she has drawn from misinformation. Her profile is a joke. She has been told about the bucketloads of facts she has wrong from both pro and anti case followers yet instead of taking the time to go back to the drawing board and revise her mistakes, she lashes out and calls us all "haters".

    Now she comes up with this error laden letter. She can't even get the lawyer's name right! Why did she instruct Anne Bremner to send this letter to a portuguese lawyer who has nothing to do with the Amazon action? Answer - because she is completely incapable of getting a single fact right!

    Some people would sell their souls for "business".

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    The Isobel Duarte error just shows her up for the eejit she is. Hope she has been taking lessons in how to pronounce "Madeleine"

    That letter looks like it's written by Brown herself, not by her lawyer. It's not a legal letter in any way and, to top it off, addressed to the wrong person.
    I was wondering this myself as no lawyer worth their salt would make such a stupid mistake.
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    Post  WM3 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:35 pm

    It would appear the whole press release thing was planned by her.

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    Looks to me as if it has been changed, there is no ref now to Duarte but to Adam Tudor. The address line is in a different font too, clearly been hastily amended.

    That is NOT a cease and desist letter. What a lot of nonsense. It's just asking ('we request') that they withdraw their claim the book is libellous, and it is meant for the consumption of the media.

    It's for publicity generation, nothing else. She is a shameless, appalling FRAUD imvho, and she may sue me for that if she so pleases, my attorney is waiting with baited breath
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    Sadly, this is all about gaining her publicity. There are so many genuine cases of neglect - heartbreaking cases of children who are dreadfully abused by their parents, yet she is only interested in piggy-backing off the case of Madeleine McCann who is an adored and cherished child.

    She whines about her professional reutation being harmed - what about the McCanns' reputations? She proposes a theory which suggests they committed some very heinous crimes, that they are callous human beings whose immediate thought on finding one of their children unexpectedly dead would be to immediately dump it along a foreign beach.

    I DO hope the media get hold of this. I really do. It is my opinion that this is a disgraceful attempt to destroy a family for financial gain.
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    Post  WM3 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:00 pm

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    Here we are (above)proof that the original addressee was Ms Duarte; it has now been amended to Mr Adam Tudor - too late, the original is all over the net. lol!

    Setting aside the business of her sending it to the wrong person, which a. makes it worthless and b. makes Brown and Bremner laughing stocks - what exactly is it that the McCanns are supposed to 'cease and desist' from doing?

    They have never, once mentioned Brown's name; on the contrary, she is the one who had the giant hissy fit and didn't bother to find out exactly what the problem was.

    For all Brown knows, this has all been over one phrase or sentence - even Bennett has had the sense to actually communicate with CR, instead of going off on one like a spoiled child.

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    Post  WM3 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:27 pm

    Just loving the fallout!

    Pat Brown Is A Idiot, In My Opinion Of Course

    Wrong Lawyer, Wrong Country, Fool.
    Isabel Duarte
    Carter-Ruck
    6 St Andrew Street
    London EC4A 3AE

    Isabel does not work for Carter And Ruck. She is a Portuguese Lawyer and works for the McCanns on Portuguese issues. By accusing her of doing something she has not, don't be surprised Brown, if you are served with a writ of defamation, when you touch-down in Portugal.

    Addendum: Changing the name helps you none, Brown. The original is now in the hands of the one you accused. I am quite sure you and your lawyer can afford the fallout from your foolishness.

    Can we get something straight.

    What purports to be a copy of a letter to Carter Ruck was dated 1st February 2012.

    Today is the 2nd February.

    So I assume the letter was sent yesterday. (if it actually exists, and actually was sent).

    Could someone explain how it is now magically re-addressed to Adam Tudor. Did she pop down to the sorting office and amend it......?

    Someone is playing games. And playing to her "audience". Rather sad, really.

    Brown has blown her own feet off spectacularly and publically.

    I do hope her groupies are pestering the UK press about this - I swear I can hear gales of laughter coming from 6 St Andrew Street already.

    After all, if Brown's 'research' is so poor, she can't even send a legal letter to the right lawyer, in the right country, then her 'research' on any subject at all is of no value whatsoever, is it?

    And she can't blame anyone else for this spectacular b*ll's up, she did it to herself, even boasted, thinking she was being big and clever.

    Good point here:

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    Now surely a lawyer would send an email, apologising for their error and send the corrected letter via attachment, wouldn’t they? And then you would expect Pat Brown to edit the post, explain the error and then post up the relevant email showing the apology and amended letter to Carter Ruck.

    Oh well I expect before the day is out this post will increase in size even further…

    Best thing Brown and Bremner could do after this is slink away and hide their blushes, before the mockery gets even worse.

    And I do hope the many real profilers in the States who refuse to have anything to do with Brown are informed about this debacle.

    ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
    Yes, I'm gong to LOOK for Maddie: Press Release: Cease and Desist Letter issued to Gerry and Kate McCann womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2012/02/press-… #McCann

    Obviously never heard of

    WHEN IN A HOLE, STOP DIGGING

    BrenR1958 Bren
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    @ProfilerPatB Is that Cease and Desist you are peddling version 1 or version 2? LOL #McCann

    Can't wait to see the answer


    So, here's the thing.

    Brown and Bremner have made a total b*lls-up before they have even started.

    I assume Brown thought the sheeples wouldn't notice that she hastily altered her oh-so-important blogpost; there is certainly no sign of her issuing an apology.

    Sadly for her, not everyone is as plain, well, thick as her fanclub, which is why Brown is now the laughing stock of this part of the internet.

    There are only two possibilities for this 'letter'.

    A. If it actually exists in the real world, the hard copy is now on its way to the wrong person, in the wrong country. If it arrives at CR, they don't even have to open it, they can Return it to Sender.

    Or they can photocopy it and pass it round the office for everyone to laugh at. Then Return it to Sender.

    B. It doesn't actually exist in the real world, which is why Brown thought she could get away with her hasty rewriting on the internet.

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    @ProfilerPatB How the hell can u have an accidental cut & Paste, cut and paste means you copy what is there, it doesn't alter things #McCann

    It is very revealing that Brown's instant reaction is to try to lie her way out of this.

    It is even more revealing that she tries to lie when it is patently obvious what has happened.

    It also speaks volumes about the ability of her "fans" to discriminate.

    I am not surprised at Brown's stupidity, she can't tell black from white, either

    The correction on her blog is in a different typeface from the rest of the "letter".

    No doubt this also needs to be "corrected"
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    Post  WM3 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:15 pm

    A kind, considerate poster has drawn this for pat brown, to help her understand where Europe is, and where she can find Isabel Duarte (Portugal) and Carter Ruck (the UK). lol! lol!

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    Post  WM3 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:41 pm

    Oh shiver me timbers, it has changed yet again, it is now a typo error.

    Correcting a typo is a major crime.Leaving three young children unattended for five nights straight…priceless. #McCann #haterlogic
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    Oh please Ms Brown what is it…. a typo or cut and paste?

    Hang on a minute.

    This is supposedly Ms Bremner's letter, which as we speak is winging its way to Isabel Duarte c/o London, England.

    I wonder if Ms Bremner knows what is going on on the internet right this minute?

    It should indeed read, United Kingdom, or similar.

    I just don't see a professional sending out a letter like this and expecting it to be taken seriously, frankly.

    Is the whole thing yet another stunt by Brown?

    Just a picky little thing

    If it was a typo shouldn't
    Dear Ms. Duarte

    Read
    Dear Ms. Tudor

    She's got Adam Tudor's name in the correct font - finally - but now 'England' has shrunk.

    And anyway, isn't it a bit odd for a high-powered attorney to be addressing something to, London, England? It sounds like one of those old captions in the Man from UNCLE or Mission Impossible.....

    Oh, so it has. Obviously London is much more bigger than England. Is she deliberately trying to be insulting?
    This is now a complete farce.

    Before I forget, does anyone know what it is she wants the McCanns to Cease and Desist doing?

    As they haven't even mentioned her name, it's a bit of a puzzle.

    Xcuse me. How is she going to change the name on the letter that is supposedly winging it's way across The Herring Pond as we speak?

    Do try to keep up.

    The letter that was sent was correctly addressed to Adam Tudor.

    But yesterday, when she copied and pasted it into her blog and the "women in crime ink" someone altered the words from Adam Tudor to Isabel Duarte. It is the sort of mix up that can happen to anyone.

    To save trouble and lots of corrections and apologies and boring stuff like that she just changed the words on the blogs.

    But rest assured that the original letter was correctly addressed.

    To suggest otherwise would mean that Ms Brown, criminal profiler, is a liar.

    And that would never do. Now, would it.

    Isn't it quaint how many Americans think 'England' is the correct postal address for the UK?

    But it doesn't matter, no postie will ever look at it, it's for press consumption only.

    This has had almost as many changes as Ann Bremner's FaceBook posts on the Zahau case. That got quite ridiculous with her removing some and altering others, sometimes ages after they were posted, to 'clarify' what she really meant.

    And the ending has changed now

    It started out

    Regards
    Anne M Bremner

    and has now morphed into

    Respectfully
    Anne M Bremner

    BrenR1958 Bren
    How can they change the ending of a letter already sent?

    Simple - you can't. That ridiculous letter is supposedly already somewhere over the Atlantic and due to land in London, England tomorrow, if it was airmailed yesterday.

    And Brown keeps rewriting it on her blog?

    'Fess up, Brown -

    THERE IS NO 'LETTER', IS THERE?

    The other interesting point is that it was a letter.

    Has she sent a second one addressed to the correct person?

    Would be handy if CR were to pass on the one addressed to Isabel Duarte ...

    Exactly, and most things are done electronically, surely she would have created a PDF, electronically signed it and sent it as an attachment to an email.

    It is not hard to find Carter Rucks email address or the email address of their individual lawyers. Yes the hardcopy might follow in the post but surely the object would be to get the book back on sale as quick as possible, not wait for sorting offices and airmail.

    Perhaps Pat Brown will scan a copy of the said letter so we can see if it was on personal headed paper or on Company headed paper?
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    Post  WM3 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:54 pm

    Carrying on from the above comments.

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    @annembremner Is it norm in Stafford Frey Cooper to send out legal letters to lawyers in wrong firms? #McCann Seems YOU did that today.


    Good question.

    Pat Brown has had a "Cease and Desist" notice served on TM.

    No, she hasn't. Only a judge can do that in the US.

    What Brown has done is post a load of rambling, badly-written nonsense on her blog. She also addressed all this to the wrong lawyer, in the wrong country.

    She has since spent the day frantically trying to lie her way out of this, which has caused great hilarity.

    Why couldn't she simply have scanned this 'letter' in to begin with, if it actually existed, instead of spouting all this hot air, and making an idiot of herself in the process?

    The letter should have the documentation stating the court and judge who issued the order. Then it has to be served to Isabel Duarte/Carter and Ruck?

    I would have thought so.

    Is it actually possible that Brown cannot grasp that the First Amendment doesn't mean a thing in European law, and that she thinks she can bully people into doing what she wants?

    I don't know, but this is madness - a multi-edited blog post is NOT a legal document. I know her forker fans are lapping this up, but then they always have been reality-challenged.

    The filing of a declaratory judgment lawsuit can follow one party sending a cease-and-desist letter to another.[7] A party contemplating sending such a letter risks that the recipient, or a party related to the recipient (such as a customer or supplier), may file for a declaratory judgment in their own jurisdiction.[8] This may require the sender to appear in a distant court, at their own expense. So sending a cease-and-desist letter presents a dilemma to the sender, as it would be desirable to be able to address the issues at hand in a candid manner without the need for litigation. Upon receiving a cease-and-desist letter, the recipient may seek a tactical advantage by instituting declaratory-judgment litigation in a more favorable jurisdiction.[9

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    In other words Carter and Ruck can apply to the British courts for a ruling.


    So, what does Brown think is going to happen, should this idiotic letter ever turn up? Because I have no doubt they know all about her antics today.

    What is going to happen when CR contact Bremner's law firm, and ask the senior partners what on earth Brown and Bremner are playing at?

    Mind you, I would pay money to see Brown summoned to the High Court - in London, England - over this, and asked to explain why on earth she thinks the UK and Portugal come under US jurisdiction.

    And by now I expect Carter Ruck are fully aware of what is happening and if they never get such a letter or if this is a hoax what would it take for them to write to Ms Bremner's firm asking what they are doing allowing lawyers to give sanction to people to post cease and desist notices on websites without informing them.

    If someone was playing silly games and trying to cause problems, I don't think Carter Ruck are going to like being in the midst of it, especially if it is a hoax..... stay tuned.

    Anne Bremner would understand "cease and desist", surely?

    It has nothing to do with a plea to return a book to the shelves plucked because of libellous content.

    I would also hope Anne Bremner is sufficiently clued up on libel to know that even by American libel laws as they apply to celebrities, to accuse (named) people of finding and moving a body, then concealing a death, is to be "reckless with the truth" if there is no evidence such a thing happened (there isn't!)

    And being reckless with the truth is libel, even by American libel laws as they apply to "celebrities".

    You sure about that? Two books, CR, pending visit, pending "meetings" - key words... publicity...

    Well I don't know if she did write it or not. But it is very unprofessional and does bring Stafford Frey Cooper into disrepute if she never penned that and if she is not representing Brown.

    What Brown has done (if as she claims this letter genuinely came from Anne Bremner (lawyer at Stafford Frey Cooper) is demonstrate what a shambles this company must be. To have sent out such an appallingly badly-written letter to completely the wrong person at a major UK legal firm shows that they have no checks in place over their staff.

    As others have suggested it seems that this lawyer, famous for her very public drunk in charge of a vehicle episode is now also famous for her drunk in charge of a keyboard episode too.

    Its funny too that neither Brown nor Bremner has explained how Brown managed to change the letter contents/addressee of Bremners letter on that blog and how that affects the original letter.


    Can't Pat post up the original & subsequent corrected versions on official letterhead of Anne B's firm?

    If not, why not? A personal favour?

    Or did Anne not write this at all... and is trying to get to the bottom of it in private?

    Even if it was a personal favour, wouldn't she have at least checked what went out in her name, with her firm as the address??

    Am I seeing things, or has she changed it back to version eleventy nine, and changed the typeface yet again? The font for CRs' address seems to be all over the place again, and she has signed it

    Regards,

    Anne M. Bremner


    which is what it was in an earlier version, before Brown changed it to

    Respectfully
    Anne M Bremner


    She also seems to have removed all the comments. So much for Free Speech.

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    I simply cannot grasp the horror and hilarity of what Brown has done in not much more than 12 hours.















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    Post  WM3 on Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:38 am

    A new day and more comments, this time from twitter.

    greenink211 green
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    @ProfilerPatB When you chose to ignore AMAZON advice to you and threw a HISSY FIT instead you prevented your book being sold there. #McCann
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    @greenink211 @ProfilerPatB pat has shown anne bremner right up. primary school kid wldnt send letters like that 2 law firms. #mccann stalker

    zante03 kim ming
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    @RingoStarfish @ProfilerPatB i think pat wants them 2 stop lookin 4 their abducted kid. she's delusional tbh, tis the vodka #mccann
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    @ProfilerPatB Simple question. Who fouled up on that letter and made you both look daft? You or STAFFORD FREY COOPERS @annebremner #McCann

    greenink211 green
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    @zante03 Or perhaps @annebremner is just a lousy lawyer at STAFFORD FREY COOPER and showed them both up. LOL #McCann
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    @RingoStarfish @ProfilerPatB Yes I'd like to know that too Ringo. Cease and desist doing from what? #mccann
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    Post  WM3 on Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:37 am

    An excellent comment.

    Everyone knows it is impossible to get totally unrelated names appearing in the middle of C & P-ing once, never mind twice.

    No-one else has ever managed; people have been trying all day to replicate Brown's unique feat.

    Newsflash - it's impossible.

    Ergo, Brown has been lying through her teeth all day to try to cover up the total balls-up she and (allegedly) Bremner have made of things.

    Brown has changed the 'letter' so many times, making fresh messes every time, that observers have actually lost count.

    Brown has also forgotten that, according to her, this 'letter' was sent to Carter Ruck - which means a hard copy of that error-ridden mess should be arriving in London, England, before much longer.

    How is she proposing to talk her way out of that? How is Bremner going to talk her way out of the complaints that have been arriving at her law firm today? What does she think her senior partners are going to make of her involvement in this farce?
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    Post  WM3 on Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:01 am

    Call me cynical, but for weeks she has been bleating on about going to PDL and doing a search and no mainstream media have picked up on her expedition. ...... So was this a Press Release hoping main-stream Media would contact her.Plus there could be a twinge of jealousy that Bennett made the Sundays.

    Not sure she realises that the Portugal is not a colony of the UK.

    If so, why her constant tweets on her "cease and desist letter" to anyone she can think of in the UK media?

    It is Portugal she's off to, isn't it? As in where she's supposed to be meeting up with people (including a certain former inspector) and go looking for the child?

    She was hoping to attend the trial... why? To make contacts? To get a word in in the media scrum? If so, why? To show solidarity with team GA? To get her face known on TVI's daytime shows? Or something else?

    I wonder if she needed another outlet after the Casey Anthony case.

    She knew damn well the trial would end, if Casey had been found guilty she could have written books, done more TV appearances and milked it dry.... if Casey had been found guilty it would have kept Patty in the media spotlight for ages.

    But the prosecution set the benchmark too high and the jury returned not guilty. Now she is in the territory that she could be sued big time by Casey Anthony if she went too far.

    Did she need another high profile case? So she latched on to the Madeleine McCann case just my opinion.

    ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
    If my book was truly defamatory, the McCanns had the option of communicating this to me or suing me for libel. They did neither. #McCann

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    They didn't need to sue her because Amazon withdrew it ...

    and she never replied apart from her supposed begging letter yesterday.

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    @ProfilerPatB And now YOU have just given us a link that doesn't work. LOL Can you not get ANYTHING right? LOL


    Is it illegal to impersonate a firm of lawyers?

    I do hope that CR immediately contact the head of the law firm to advise them what one of their *cough* lawyers is doing. I think that if the shoe was on the other foot, CR would expect something similar?

    In any event, this is not going to go down at all well with the senior partner at Stafford Frey Cooper. In fact, Brown may not have bargained for what will surely follow?

    As a UK citizen and bearing in mind her clear animosity towards the McCanns, and her financial need to be right, I'd be worried about her planting evidence in PDL or just making it up.

    I hope Scotland Yard are aware Miss Marple is coming to interfere in their review.

    And yes, she's sending a clear message to Amoral and the PJ - you're crap and you need an American to show you where you went wrong.
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    Post  WM3 on Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:24 am

    PAT BROWN
    ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
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    @annembremner And, many thanks, Anne, for helping me stand up for freedom of speech, truth and justice! You are awesome! #McCann
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    RT @WomenInCrimeInk Women in Crime Ink: Press Release: Cease and Desist Letter issued to Gerry and.. bit.ly/zNRNJY
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    Retweeted by ProfilerPatB

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    @ProfilerPatB thank you for standing up for free speech. You are awesome. It takes courage and integrity. You have both.
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    annembremner Anne Bremner
    RT @WomenInCrimeInk Women in Crime Ink: Press Release: Cease and Desist Letter issued to Gerry and.. bit.ly/zNRNJY
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    This is going to get even more interesting.

    You are right.

    It looks as though La Bremner is firmly onside as far as Brown is concerned.

    And is presumably quite happy with the woeful performance over the "alterations"

    You know, even Bennett would draw the line over something like that.

    I would love to be a fly on the wall when all of the details sink in with her senior partner.

    So when is she going to sue and where is she going to do it?

    Apart from that appalling, drunken incident, I thought Anne Bremner was a half decent Lawyer, but if she wrote that Letter then she would be better served learning how to speak English. And if all she can do is fight for Freedom of Speech for those who are equally challenged in this department then she is rather wasting her time. I don't need anyone to fight for my rights.

    And after all else where Pat Brown is concerned, she is just fighting for the right to Libel People. She won't get it in Britain.

    It will be interesting to see what excuses for her behaviour Bremner gives.

    It's possible that Bremner gave Brown the green light to write that carp in her name, without thinking any of it through?

    She could have allowed Brown to write it in her name, possibly because Brown is supposed to know what has gone on. But this is a very dangerous game, especially for a Lawyer. I wouldn't put my name to anything I hadn't at least read and checked on. And it isn't even a Cease and Desist Letter, more a rambling and garbled request containing way too much information, half of which isn't even true. Carter Ruck will make minced meat of it, if they can be bothered.

    Bremner actually wrote the letter?

    The jury is still out on that one. I am inclined to think she did - it is couched in very cautious terms, which is most unlike Ms Brown.

    It would certainly explain why her firm was slow to respond to communications about the issue ...

    I would imagine that there would be a few explanations required once the penny has dropped?

    I don't think a large law firm would like to be shown up as having an incompetent attorney on board where such a high profile matter as Madeleine is concerned.

    Precisely my thoughts. And perhaps Brown will want to sack her incompetent attorney?

    Sending letters to all the wrong people, and presuming to lecture the top UK libel firm about libel, particularly in the UK isn't really good form ...

    No it's not. In my mind it's negligent of Bremner to have done what she did (if she did it) at worst and incompetence at best.

    Look at that puke-inducing exchange of awesomes! between Brown and Bremner, supposedly both professional, middle-aged women. They sound like a couple of teenage Beiber groupies.

    Right this minute, neither of them have a shred of credibility. And after her mendacious conduct yesterday, I too suspect Brown is capable of planting 'evidence' so she can 'find' it while 'searching'.

    And now twitter accounts are being deleted? The thick plottens....








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    Post  WM3 on Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:28 pm

    More:

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    Excellent question. Rather makes Brown look like a charlatan and a liar for saying:

    ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
    If I wanted publicity rather than truth & justice, I would have have gotten on the pro side of both Madeleine #McCann & #WestMemphisThree.


    Considering the likes of her nearly got an innocent man executed, the less she says about WM3, the better.

    IMO, she is no better than a shock jock, using the First Amendment as an excuse for her hate speech.

    ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
    Please retweet & get the word out to the UK press! Cease-and-desist letter issued to Gerry and Kate McCann. tinyurl.com/7c55d2x #McCann

    She doesn't get it, does she? The UK press know all about this. The UK press isn't interested in her libel - she really needs to grasp that the UK isn't part of the States.

    The UK press is, however, more than capable of doing a hatchet job on Brown, her Ghoul Tour, and her antics yesterday.

    If she wasn't so egotistical, she would have read between the lines on the Anorak piece; she really needs to grasp that Anorak doesn't take 'sides'; it will laugh at anyone who they perceive to be making a fool of themselves.

    As she is.

    ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
    @VenusManTrap22 @RothleyPillow Find the perpetrator. If you do that, you find Madeleine, dead or alive. #McCann.


    And what the feck does she think Scotland Yard, the non-Gonc parts of the PJ, and the McCanns' PIs are trying to do?

    Granny, suck eggs, don't teach.

    She's gonna go down a storm in Portugal.

    Oh yes, right down a set of stairs in the local hoosegow.

    She knows she's talking shite, and she knows the mentality of the people she is encouraging. She has just bitten off a bit more than she can chew, stupid bitch, and she will regret this one. Either that, or she thinks Scotland Yard Senior Detectives are a bunch of thickos.

    She could be forgiven for thinking Gonc is a thicko, but even The PIs are ex Brit Police with excellent records. None of them are talking about what they have found, for obvious reasons, at least, obvious to anyone who has a grain of common sense.


    I was in stitches when I saw her reprimanding the Yard for not interviewing people.

    She is totally, utterly ignorant of UK law, isn't she?

    But why does she keep on insisting that it is a Cease and Desist Letter when clearly it isn't? It's a rambling bunch of twaddle with a request tacked on the end. It doesn't even warrant a reply. Apart from being addressed to the wrong person in the wrong country.

    Legally, I am informed, the letter should never have been on the Internet before the recipient had received it. The ramifications for STAFFORD FREY COOPER could be very damaging.

    It is pretty disgraceful that a bunch of us knew about it before Carter Ruck and Isabel Duarte. And watched it being altered several times.

    STAFFORD, FREY, COOPER will be a laughing stock by now.

    And the constant changes to the 'letter' made it even worse, I actually lost track of how many times Brown altered it.

    It's the kind of nonsense we expect from her, but I did think Bremner had slightly more sense. Obviously not.

    This is liable to end up being even worse for her, long-term, than the DUI business, as it reflects very badly both on her professional competence and her employers.

    Can you imagine it, if Scotland Yard or the PJ have undercover operations going, with someone under surveillance, monitoring their movements because there is a chance they could lead them to where Madeleine is and Pat Brown wades in like a bull in a china shop....


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    Post  WM3 on Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:58 pm

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    I'll be honest, I still can't take in what Brown did yesterday. It was as if she forgot that the internet doesn't actually matter as much as she thinks; it is in the real world that these things come back to bite people.

    She's getting more annoyed by the hour.

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    Post  WM3 on Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:02 pm

    Seriously, how STUPID is Brown?

    Criminal Profiler Pat Brown
    The story is out in the UK.

    Madeleine McCann: Pat Brown. Amazon and Carter Ruck
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    Yes, and how does Anorak open the story?

    MADELEINE McCANN: Pat Brown, a “criminal profiler” in America, has issued a press release stating that she has sent a Cease-and-Desist Letter to Gerry and Kate McCann, parents of the missing child. The letter ends:

    We request that the claim of libel be retracted for the Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann and the book permitted to be returned for sale at Amazon.

    Any press release is, as it says, intended for the press. It is PR. It is designed to draw attention to the subject, in this case Pat Brown.

    It repeats what we already know, but if Brown thinks it shows her in a good light, well, she had better do some background reading on the UK press.

    And neither Anorak nor Private Eye take 'sides', a small detail the forkers seem unaware of.

    Both will merrily satirize anyone being a pretentious ass, and making a fool of themselves in the process.

    Sources say Anorak has stopped taking comments on anything McCann-related, because they are fed up of the hatespam, and the trouble it causes.

    Oh, and I suppose Brown does know Anorak banned Bennett a long time ago for being a pain in the neck?

    No?

    She really should stop and think what she is blundering into.

    I wonder when she will start telling the truth about her and Bremner's....letter?

    I would love to be a fly on the wall at Stafford Frey Cooper today.

    It would be bad enough anyway that they had been dragged into the McCann case, but to also be shown up as having incompetent, incoherent, unprofessional staff, is the worst kind of publicity.

    No-one at Carter Ruck would ever have made a series of foul-ups like that.
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    Post  WM3 on Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:52 pm

    RothleyPillow Rothley Pillowcase
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    @BeanonTi I can't understand why the #mccann s have got the hump with @ProfilerPatB FFS she's doing what they TOLD us to do & SEARCHING! lol


    Oh? I didn't see the McCanns making an announcement about Pretendy? In fact, they have never mentioned her name.

    Which is one of the reasons everyone is in stitches at the pretendy letter.

    She and her awesome lawyer seem incapable of grasping that UK and Portuguese law is different from US law, and that actually, she doesn't have the right to go around accusing people of mummifying their children.

    She also fails to grasp that she cannot force Amazon to sell her leaflet, any more than she can force the UK press to repeat her libellous remarks.

    Most of all, she is failing to grasp that in Europe, she is a nonentity, and her jaunt to Portugal is of no more interest to the media than FoxyBlondie's was four years ago.

    Mind you, if she keeps on badgering the UK press, she is liable to find herself on the receiving end of the kind of smear job only they are capable of.

    Stupidly, Brown has spent the last few days begging the UK media to pay attention to, an alleged cease and desist notice that isn't a cease and desist notice. However, with the aid of her lawyer Awesome, she insists it is, (I can assure one and all, the word request and the words cease and desist do not mean the same thing in the USA or anywhere else in the world). It would appear, the UK media are not as dumb as Pâtét believes. They have completely ignored her. You see, they got the official police files in CD form direct from the Portuguese Judiciary. Not from badly translated files on the Internet. And, those files on the net are indeed, atrociously translated to suit nasty self serving people.
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    Post  WM3 on Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:31 pm

    ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
    #ScotlandYard should never have agreed to review the case without the #McCann s & the Tapas 7 being willing to be reinterviewed beforehand.


    Oh, do shut up, you rank, meddling amateur.
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    Post  WM3 on Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:59 pm

    It is supposed to be a letter from one solicitor to another solicitor. Why should the press report it?

    Agreed. I can't come up with one plausible reason for this pathological need for the UK press to report it?

    Is she after a UK work permit or something?
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    Post  WM3 on Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:03 pm

    Oooh, heck, some one with a brain stating a point of view.

    Posted by: lillylilac on February 5, 2012 8:10 PM

    Who cares what pat Brown has to say, I mean she has waited for almost 5 years to get her self promoting ego over to PDL, nothing like self promoting publicity now is there, shock horror! Her transparency is so glaringly obvious obvious!
    And yet, we have some numpties on here treating her like the messiah, you have just got to laugh at their complete stupidity and desperation, what a joke!

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    Posted by: sandra rennie from Pretoria, South Africa on February 5, 2012 9:41 PM

    lillylilac

    Don't be too sure of your words !

    How do you know SY have not asked Pat Brown to help with the profiling ?


    Do they really not know what a joke Brown is in the States? That real profilers will have nothing to do with her? That she couldn't profile her way out of a paper bag?

    And a fool this time.

    Here's another one:

    good evening Sandra. I agree with your Idea.
    It would make sense for SY to seek out somebody like Pat Brown to help with the case - she has Law Enforcement connections who will no doubt vouch for her, a good track record of results & it may well be that a person with undisclosed information who for whatever reason would not go to the Authorities might very well tell a 3rd party like Pat Brown the info in confidence.


    Do they actually not know that LE loath her? Have done ever since she had a hissy fit because they wouldn't arrest her lodger for being a serial killer, due to needing boring stuff like evidence?

    Her track record is non-existent - I thought everyone knew about the Beltway Sniper/s farce, and all her other disasters.

    Oh, and anything she gets told would be put straight on her blog, with suitable embellishments to make Brown the hero of the hour.

    These gems are coming from Brunt's blog:

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    A GOOD TRACK RECORD? PULL THE OTHER ONE, IT PLAYS THEY'RE COMING TO TAKE HER AWAY, HEHE HAHA.

    Scotland Yard seek her out? Hell, our own (USA) Law Enforcement don't seek her out.
    The FBI think she is a complete idiot, and professional profilers refuse to be in the same room with her!
    The only place she is famous, is in her own head!
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    Post  WM3 on Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:31 pm

    NEWSFLASH! LATEST!

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    Stafford, Frey, Cooper have deleted their Facebook page

    It does indeed seem to be gone - I wonder if that has anything to do with people using it to ask awkward questions about Awesome Patsy and Awesome Anne?
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    Post  coco on Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:15 pm

    bushmeats been quiet for a week now , wonder where her latest booky wooky has got to ?
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    Post  WM3 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:28 pm

    I think this surfaced on the Brunt Life of Crime blog on sky. Thanks to ER who sent it on to me.

    Posted by: Danger Toad on March 7, 2012 11:12 PM
    Carter Ruck have rejected Pat Brown's cease and desist request to have her book put back on Amazon.

    Will post further if anything more turns up. WM3
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    Post  WM3 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:17 pm

    It seems the comment in the previous post was on a blog radio show

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    Post  WM3 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:11 pm

    Posted on: 03-8-2012

    And it is not good news for Pattie and her cease and desist letter. You know the letter, the one that good altered so many times, it became a standing joke. Well apparently it eventually found it’s way to Carter Ruck in London, whether it was via Isabel Duarte who is the McCanns Portuguese lawyer, is yet to be determined, but it got there.

    And guess what, Carter Ruck told her basically to Go forth And Multiply.. No the McCanns are not going to give her permission to have the book back on Amazon for her to sell.

    No this is not gossip, this is not forum myth, this is out of Pattie’s own mouth.

    The whole show can be heard here at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

    And just a few corrections:

    Madeleine McCann is not named Madeleine McConn (full interview at roughly 24.17) (Clip).
    Amaral is being sued for 1.2 million not 1.5 million.
    And it happens to be in euros not dollars.
    But it is nice to hear Pattie say she doesn’t blame the McCanns for getting her book pulled.

    However the way she is trying to promote her new e-book I would say she has given up trying to make money out of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, I suppose it didn’t rake in the dollars like she expected. So she will concentrate on her new novel and promoting it whenever and wherever she can.


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    Post  WM3 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:12 pm

    OK, I have done my duty.

    1. Brown has a voice for silent movies,.

    2. She still can't be bothered to pronounce Madeleine's name properly.

    After she plugged the Billy Bob saga, she then proceeded to announce a series of falsehoods, like the McCanns 'confiscated' Gonc's book.

    Did they now? Sure about that, is she?

    Carter Ruck did indeed tell her to take a hike - I got the distinct impression that neither she nor Bremner have any idea what to do next, Carter Ruck having failed to be impressed by the pair of them.

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    She then plugged her blog and other blah blah.

    And not once did she bother to pronounce Madeleine's name correctly.

    PS - my ears hurt.

    I cheated and whipped past Billy Bob and the book crap.
    Yes, she sure does have a voice to die for. Listening too long to it, and you want to commit Hari-Kari [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

    Her voice is awful, and it isn't the accent, the other US speakers didn't set my teeth on edge, American accents are usually fairly pleasant.

    She should have spent her jaunt money on a voice coach, she might get out of the dark recesses of blogradio then.

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    She just promotes herself the whole time. I confess to not really following the Super Tuesday stuff, but that speaker wasn't endlessly plugging her latest pamphlet, or hillbilly romance, or whatever.


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