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    Post  Sykes Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:21 pm

    Hutton's probably drunk, or stoned, or both - I don't know what Bennett's excuse is.

    Re: MADDIE: COPS AT WAR - Daily Star 18/2/14
    Post Cristobell Today at 3:42 pm

    Cristobell wrote:

    Why Tony? For what reason?

    Lets look at historical cover ups.

    Dr. Kelly = reason: Government committed to war and Dr. Kelly's opinions threat to that.

    Hillsborough = reason: Bad decisions by high level Police and perseverance of the Families' pressure groups. [And big to Brian Reade and Andy Burnham]

    I just cannot imagine anything of such magnitude surrounding the disappearance of Madeleine. I appreciate it is difficult for you to answer given the absurd restrictions on your free speech (yes, it still outrages me!), but perhaps you can put forward something that will lead my thinking in the right direction?

    Bennett wrote:

    I fully agree with you that any cover-up must have a reason. That's clear and logical thinking and I agree with your assertion.

    For legal reasons I cannot put forward here on the forum what I think may lie behind this cover-up (if it is a cover-up), but be patient please for a day or two and I will send you a 'pm' rather than continue this particular discussion on the open forum.

    There is a thread on the forum called 'The people who rushed out to Praia da Luz' (or similar) and there I raise the question of why so many important people suddenly descended on PdL when it was perfectly possible, so far as we knew at that stage, for Madeleine to have been found alive and well any day.

    Most respectfully, I would invite you to consider - for each person who suddenly went out there - why was it necessary for them to go, why did they go, who sent them there, and who paid for them to go there? And finally, what did each of them achieve?


    Hutton:

    Ok, lets look at the people who flew (or drove) out there. The British Consul, Buck I believe, Justine McGuiness, sent by the Government, but not a government employee by the look of her CV on linkedin. Lawyers from the Family Law Association, Lawyers from other major law firms. Spiritual assistance in the form of priest(s), emotional assistance in the form of Alan Pike (travelling psychologist) and a huge assortment of relatives and friends.

    I suppose at the time Clarence Mitchell would have been considered a Big Gun, he was fairly high up in Labour's media department, but, and this cannot be stressed enough, he quite his job with the Government to work for the private Fund of Gerry and Kate McCann. The Government not only severed links with the McCanns (Buck quietly withdrew), but they severed links with the McCanns's spokesman!

    Justine McGuiness has moved on, no mention of her role in the McCann drama in her Linkedin CV. So too Esther McVie, her CV also omits her Directorship of the Madeleine Fund. She has succeeded in her career despite her association with the McCanns, not because of them. Of the Law firms, they have had a steady form of income since 2007, win or lose they are still wracking up the hours.

    If you are referring to the nephew of a former ex Labour Minister who was already out there, imo, he is a teeny weeny minor character, certainly not one who would warrant this scale of cover up. He is not a President, a PM, or a member of the Royal Family.

    Were the McCanns visited by members of the Secret Service? Unlikely imo, as good as the McCanns are at keeping secrets, anything that would suggest their government had 100% faith in their innocence would have been made into a feature film starring Nicole Kidman and broadcast on all the major networks. The McCanns simply cannot keep a secret if it shows them in a good light - they need everything they can get. For this reason I don't think they are in any loops. They smile at the cameras and tell the interviewers that they are being kept fully advised, but they did exactly the same in 2007. Kate's book confirms they were lying, what was going on behind the scenes was entirely different.

    But I digress, these visitors, or officials would have had to get through a barrage of journalists and photographers to visit the McCanns in the summer of 2007. Kate even opined in her book that one of the lawyers who flew out to see them was highly conspicuous due to his flamboyant attire. Men in black would have stood out like a sore thumb.

    I haven't ruled out the possibility that Gerry is some scheming Dr. Evil, with something BIG on an important person or a large organisation. The favours he has received are rather more than quid pro quo, and some might even think they were extracted forcibly rather than given freely with a benevolent smile. Especially when that called in favour comes back again and again at every anniversary. The problem for controlling/demanding people is that the hosts they feed off eventually get fed up with them. I think in the case of the McCanns, that happened quite some time ago.

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    Post  Sykes Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:35 pm


    Marconi: I expect a new statement made by Redwood, perhaps at the beginning of March..

    Bennett again:

    I fear this may go the same way as all your other predictions, like this one:

    (12 January 2014) I believe the reconstruction will happen very soon...Since the Met police got involved in the case, we never heard of any new sightings any more... As far as I know, there have been no new sightings since May 2011

    and then...

    (17 January 2014) I had the hope that the reconstruction would happen today or yesterday - May the 2nd 2007 was full moon and two days ago too. My hope was that the reconstruction would happen now, with approxmately the same moonlight.

    diatribe:

    Just be thankful for tender mercies that he didn't decide to adopt the username of Isaiah

    To which Bennett replies:

    Or consider Jeremiah:

    Jeremiah 14:14
    Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions...the delusions of their own minds.

    Jeremiah 23:16
    This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.

    Jeremiah 29:8
    Yes, this is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: "Do not let the prophets and diviners among you deceive you. Do not listen to the dreams you encourage them to have.

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    Post  Sykes Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:30 pm

    Post russiandoll Today at 5:13 pm

    Tony,
    I do not know if you read a post of mine on p.85 of this thread, in response to a rather over the top one to me likening my sincerity to that of Harriet Harman.

    I made you a pretty fulsome apology for having prematurely been critical of your sarcasm towards Marconi.
    It would appear that you have not read my post, or if you have, you choose not to make a similar apology to me for mentioning me in the same breath as this vile woman. And the context of that was over child abuse and pornography. I find that very offensive.
    I would kindly request that you read it and maybe think , as suggested by Cristobell, of maybe reconsidering that remark of yours.
    While I was upset with your sarcastic tone, I did not make a comparison.
    You chose not to simply state that I had not sounded sincere, you chose to compare me quite unfairly to someone who said she did not need to apologise.

    I do not know what you expected me to say to aiyoyo, other than I was sorry that my criticism of your attitude offended her.
    When I speak my mind, I do not think I am insulting, but I call it like I see it.
    I am very aware of the high esteem in which some people hold you on the forum, as do I, however I do not revere you, I respect you.
    I also respect you enough to think that you can respond to criticism in a way that might be forthright without being unpleasant, that I would have accepted.
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    Post  Broho Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:48 pm

    They are all doing it now. Since the pros walked away from so called 'debate', they are fighting amongst themselves, except for the MM forum.

    Haters gotta hate.
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    Post  Sykes Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:22 pm

    He's bitten the doll's head off:
    Re: MADDIE: COPS AT WAR - Daily Star 18/2/14
    Post Tony Bennett Today at 5:49 pm

    russiandoll wrote:
    Tony,
    I do not know if you read a post of mine on p.85 of this thread...

    Both you and Harriet Harman...

    expressed regret...

    if...

    Now can we please move back on topic
    That's her card marked and her days numbered.
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    Post  Broho Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:27 pm

    Making that monthly payment must be taking its toll.
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    Post  Sykes Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:52 pm


    Re: MADDIE: COPS AT WAR - Daily Star 18/2/14
    Post russiandoll Today at 6:26 pm

    Tony,

    Please see my post to aiyoyo

    " I am sorry if my criticism of TB has upset you. " [ an apology from you hinges on my correcting IF to THAT ?!]

    I am prepared to acknowledge when I am in the wrong . Also in my post on p.85, addressed to you :

    " I went straight to a different thread when I was alerted to what marconi had posted. I have been critical of him/ her and said I owed you an apology."

    Once again you have been offensive in a way I was not to you.

    You wish to call the tune here and revert to topic, when it suits you.

    I would point out again that I am prepared to acknowledge a mistake.

    I am not getting into semantics over this. I now find it laughable that you compare me to Harman who denied a set of circumstances ever occurred. I am not denying being critical...I certainly was. I do not know what you expect from me other than what I have said by way of an apology.

    I do REGRET that you are not prepared to do the same.
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    Post  Broho Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:02 pm

    He's very easily rattled isn't he?
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    Post  Sykes Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:36 pm

    Re: MADDIE: COPS AT WAR - Daily Star 18/2/14
    Post Cristobell Today at 7:07 pm

    Taking an unwieldy stance on any aspect of this case is utterly pointless, therefore it saddens me to see members fall out, particularly when we are so close to the final reel.

    This case is hugely frustrating, for some more than others, especially those who have been personally involved. However, no matter how exasperated we become, it is never right to insult other members of this forum. Words are sometimes said in anger and we later regret that, it is at that point, that is a good idea to remove them and apologise for any offence caused. It is the gentlemanly and indeed ladylike thing to do, it shows strength of character, humility and a strong sense of fair play. In people like that, we trust.

    Russiandoll apologised to you Tony and to everyone else involved in Marconigate. Good manners dictate that we should accept an apology graciously, even if we have an inner voice screaming 'I don't believe you'. Good manners are the core of our society and, I would hope, the core of this forum.

    Apologies if I am sounding a little preachy, but I have always thought you a gentleman Tony even if we are polar opposite in our views. The remark you made to Russiandoll was beneath you, and forgive me for saying, Un-Christian, I am sure the good Lord was always teaching us about humility and pride and how they are a bad thing to have.

    It is of course entirely up to you whether you apologise and entirely up to those who read here, what they make of it.
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    Post  Broho Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:42 pm

    As I was saying. He's such a precious thing.  lol! lol! lol! lol! 
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    Post  Rachel Granada Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:38 pm

    Sykes wrote:He's bitten the doll's head off:
    Re: MADDIE: COPS AT WAR - Daily Star 18/2/14
    Post Tony Bennett Today at 5:49 pm

    russiandoll wrote:
    Tony,
    I do not know if you read a post of mine on p.85 of this thread...

    Both you and Harriet Harman...

    expressed regret...

    if...

    Now can we please move back on topic
    That's her card marked and her days numbered.

    Benn... er I mean candyfloss will have the ban-stick out if she keeps on dissing the leader... erm I mean fellow member Bennett.
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    Post  Broho Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:42 pm

    Benn... er I mean candyfloss will have the ban-stick out if she keeps on dissing the leader... erm I mean fellow member Bennett.

    The poor man can't be hiding behind a woman's skirt again, can he?  lol! lol! lol! lol! 
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    Post  Rachel Granada Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:48 pm

    Broho wrote:He's very easily rattled isn't he?  

    Yes, you would think that someone confident and secure in their views wouldn't take any notice of Blacksmith's insults.
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    Post  Sykes Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:01 pm

    They're off again, now yoyo is shouting at Marconi, and I still don't know what Marconi is supposed to have done.
    There was nothing rude in the post that asked you to produce the email you claimed you'd written or the response you may receive, it's just a way to support your claim, else people can claim anything.

    Or in the other posts, whether it be mine or others, that asked you simple questions or asked you to put more meat on your conviction, but you choose not to reply to suit your convenient. What has keeping peace got anything to do with bad manners of not replying if replies are in civilised manner ?

    You were rude to RR as pointed out by various poster, but you choose not to apologise too.

    So, to be fair, you shouldn't be attacking people's manner when you need improvements in that area.
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    Post  Broho Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:07 pm

    This is hilarious.  lol! lol! lol! lol! 
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    Post  Rachel Granada Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:14 pm

    Broho wrote:Benn... er I mean candyfloss will have the ban-stick out if she keeps on dissing the leader... erm I mean fellow member Bennett.

    The poor man can't be hiding behind a woman's skirt again, can he?   lol! lol! lol! lol! 

    Maybe candyfloss' skirts are as voluminous as Mummy's....  Very Happy Very Happy 
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    Post  Sykes Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:26 pm

    Looks like this is what the punchup is all about.
    Re: MADDIE: COPS AT WAR - Daily Star 18/2/14
    Tony Bennett Yesterday at 12:41 am

    tigger to marconi yesterday morning, re a snide post by 'marconi' about a post by Research_Reader:

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    The idea of a forum is that views are exchanged. Snide remarks such as the one I've highlighted above do not encourage discussion. Imo RR's post is a perfectly good interpretation of the available information. An apology would be in order imo.

    UNQUOTE

    Has marconi apologised for that yet?

    NO
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    Post  Broho Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:30 pm

    Was it the time of month for him to pay Carter Ruck?
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    Post  Sykes Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:38 pm

    Read all about it here (remove xxxx to access link), offending posts are on the previous page.

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    Post  Broho Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:46 pm

    Are they serious? They are getting that upset about NOTHING.

    Idiots every one of them.  lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! 
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    Post  Rachel Granada Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:24 am

    Broho wrote:Was it the time of month for him to pay Carter Ruck?

    Yes, I think so. I think it's done by direct debit but I always get an image of Bennett in the Carter Ruck offices handing over a cheque and it being like that scene from Ghost where Whoopi Goldberg has to hand over the 4 million dollar cheque to the nuns!

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