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    AND, FINALLY .... WELL, JUST THE TRAILER AND A LOAD OF RUBBISH AKA A PRESS RELEASE

    Post  Sykes on Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:42 am



    Comments so far from another forum with thanks.
    Generally, pretty woeful, amateur stuff - cliched 'atmospheric' music, 'questions' - the sort of thing Queen HOHO churns out by the thousand.

    THEN - Poulton supposedly strides up in best cliched Fearless Reporter style to the McCann family's home, Kate McCann supposedly answers the door, and Fearless Sonz demands to know why she didn't answer questions.

    Yeah, right.
    Stick to the Sky News sofa and soshul isshoos dear.
    Poulton's badly-written 'press release'-

    RESS RELEASE
    “Neither her parents or any of the members of the group that were with her are either persons of interest or suspects” ~DCI Andy Redwood, Operation Grange
    Since the disappearance of Madeleine Beth McCann during a family holiday in Portugal in May 2007, the three-year-old from Leicester in England has become the most famous missing child on earth.
    Her parents, Doctors Kate and Gerry McCann - and their seven holidaying companions, the tabloid-named 'Tapas 7' – told the world’s media that Madeleine had been abducted after she, and the other young children in the party, had been left unattended in their apartments as the adults dined elsewhere at their Algarve holiday complex.
    Despite unprecedented global support to find her, Madeleine has not been found since. No one has been charged with her disappearance.
    Journalist and broadcaster Sonia Poulton, fascinated by the case from the beginning, has repeatedly questioned the ‘official version of events’. As indeed had many of her media colleagues - although none of them publicly.
    To do so, she had been told on several occasions, was ‘career suicide’.
    So it was that Poulton, and a small trusted team, independently-financed and have spent the last year filming 'The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann - A War of Information'.

    An evidence-based documentary prompted by the death of Brenda Leyland in October 2014.
    Leyland, a 63-year-old divorcee who lived just 15 minutes drive from the McCann’s Leicester home but was not known to have met the family, was an avid Internet commentator on the subject of Madeleine’s disappearance.
    Brenda Leyland was door-stepped in a special ‘McCann’ report by Sky News and this event was beamed nationally and internationally on the morning of October 2nd, 2014 where she was dubbed a ‘McCann Troll’ and her life, and that of her family, changed forever.
    But what was her crime? And why had this intelligent, passionate woman apparently felt driven to suicide in a Leicester hotel two days later?
    Poulton, having studied Brenda Leyland’s tweets, realised that far from being a ‘troll’ Leyland was someone who asked many of the same questions that she had already asked regarding Madeleine McCann.
    Brenda’s death was a turning point for Poulton and she decided it was time to speak out. She recorded a short message to YouTube expressing her sympathy with Brenda Leyland and supporting her right to free speech.
    The response to this impromptu YouTube made it clear that she was far from alone in this stance.
    She discovered tens of thousands of people, from all over the world, congregating on the Internet and questioning the story of Madeleine McCann and whether it was an extraordinary cover up involving the British Government and legal, judicial, medical and media establishments.
    The film includes expert testimony from those who have studied the case as well as encounters with the people at the very heart of the story.
    No exceptions, no exclusions. In the famed words of Kate and Gerry McCann ‘Leaving no stone unturned’.
    This documentary explores the disappearance and subsequent events of the case.
    It is a story, as Poulton discovered, that is about more than the disappearance of a child, as tragically sad as that event is.
    It is a tale of media censorship, numerous lawsuits and widespread gagging and it draws together friends in high places, social inequality, celebrity endorsement and saving reputations.
    Sensitive to Operation Grange, the ongoing police investigation, Poulton is careful only to address the known anomalies that have arisen since Madeleine’s reported disappearance - and have been in the public domain for a number of years.
    Some of these questions arising from the Portuguese Police files which were made public in 2008. Others, still, as a consequence of the actions of Kate and Gerry McCann and the people involved in the Find Madeleine campaign.
    Numerous inconsistencies that have remained unreported and unaddressed in the many media interviews that Kate and Gerry McCann grant as they increasingly make their mark in public life.
    Kate as an Ambassador for the charity Missing People and Gerry as an outspoken critic of the media and spokesman for the high profile pressure group into press freedom, Hacked Off.
    Poulton set out to separate fact from fiction and gain clarity from the tsunami of information about the most famous missing child on earth.
    ‘The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann – A War of Information’ is the result of that journey.
    She's just regurgitated the usual hatertroll stupidity about the pointless '48 questions'. If she'd bothered to do the slightest genuine research, she would know the whole story about them.

    That is sheer laziness.

    I thought she was at Leyland's inquest? Did she miss what was said there about Leyland's history of suicide attempts and mental illness because she was too busy harrassing people and sucking up to trolls like Ms Greasy Hair?

    Again, sheer laziness.

    So far, her 'reporting' bears as much resemblance to reality, as a CIA-sponsored film on the Middle East.

    And finally, we are supposed to believe she just marched up to the McCann's family home, doorstepped Mrs McCann, and went into full shriek mode.

    And nothing happened....
    Was that even Mrs McCann? It's not the best quality piece of film I've ever seen. If it was, why wasn't the shrieking harpy arrested for doorstepping, pestering and abusing Mrs McCann?

    I have a great many questions about that so-called 'teaser'.

    This is stunning, so original and truthseeking, when is the full video being released? isn't one of them.


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    Re: AND, FINALLY .... WELL, JUST THE TRAILER AND A LOAD OF RUBBISH AKA A PRESS RELEASE

    Post  Sykes on Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:12 pm

    Love this one!  
    Sonia Poulton ‏@SoniaPoulton  Oct 2
    Happy Birthday #GonçaloAmaral denied free speech, assets frozen, marriage destroyed but public are behind him #mccann

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    WELL, WELL, WELL, GUESS WHO'S FLAPPING HER GOB OVER THIS

    Post  Sykes on Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:22 pm

    Re: TRAILER - HERE IT IS .....Sonia Poulton - The untold story of Madeleine McCann
    Post Cristobell Today at 12:39 pm

    Oh, for goodness sake, some of us have been trying to get the truth about Madeleine McCann's disappearance into the public domain for the past 8 years and now we have something tangible out there, some are going out of their way to find nonsensical things to whinge about!

    Err, the message for those who missed is: Sonia is confronting this cover up of Madeleine's disappearance head on - not pussfyfooting behind closed doors or playing Cluedo in a forum for 8 years. She is asking the questions that matter, the ones we have all been discussing for 8 years, directly to the people who can answer them!

    I watch a lot of real life documentaries, its a passion/obsession. The ones that hit home are the ones that stick with the story and the ones that use the drama of the story to keep the audience's attention. Sonia is spot on, she has gone for the key words and the key phrases, the ones that attracted the big audiences at the very beginning. For those who tend to forget why we are all here, we are fighting a huge injustice, an injustice that saw the tragic death of a child being cynically used, not only by her parents but by those we trust to protect us, to enrich and empower themselves. Worse still, our own mainstream media appeared to be 'in on it' - no one was speaking out for Madeleine! And those of us who did, suffered the consequences.

    As to a comparison between Sonia doorstepping Kate McCann and Sky News doorstepping Brenda Leyland. Brenda was a lady who preferred to live a quiet, unassuming life, away from the limelight. She was the epitome of a private person. She used the name 'Sweepyface' online, because she knew if it was public knowledge that she did not believe the Kate and Gerry McCann, she would be universally despised and caste out of society, as indeed happened.

    Kate on the other hand, has courted the media from the day her daughter disappeared. She and her husband shamelessly use the media to get everything they want. They paid £500k to keep their story on the front pages! All their press conferences and media appearance have been carefully stage managed and within their control and for 8 years they have been able to dodge direct questions that demand direct answers. In addition, Brenda had not lost a child in mysterious circumstances! Isn't about time someone asked Kate and Gerry to tell the truth about their daughter's disappearance? As to those comparing the two, there is no comparison.  


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    Post  Sykes on Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:01 pm

    Tony Bennett Today at 9:31 am
    Hmmm, is anyone in the country now empowered to door-step the mother of a missing child, two cameramen in tow, thrust a microphone in her face (Trailer: 1 min 8 secs to 1 min 18 secs) and demand to know why you haven't answered police questions - without any adverse consequences?

    YES, it seems, so long as you are a 'Social Affairs Commentator' regularly invited on the SKY News sofa, to write articles about anti-McCann trolls in the Sun, and appear on ITV and the BBC regularly into the bargain.

    I note that the YouTube description of this trailer is that it is a 'Teaser Trailer'. I hope there isn't a hidden message in Poulton's deliberate choice of the word 'Teaser'.

    I'll believe this doc when I see it
    kinell Today at 9:53 am
    Sonia Poulton's press release goes on about how Brenda Leyland was doorstepped then found dead.

    So what does she do?

    She doorsteps Kate McCann who has been said to have suicidal tendencies.

    Well done Sonia, you prize idiot.
    Verdi Today at 12:29 pm
    Eh ? Seriously - is that it?

    What you've all been waiting for..

    "Hello Kate, you don't know me (singy songy voice) - my name is Sonia Poulton, I'm a journalist and broadcaster. I wanted to know for example, why you didn't answer the 48 questions with regard Madeleine..."

    Coming soon - theuntoldstoryofmadeleinemccann.com

    If that were a double glazing sales agent you'd slam the door it it's face!

    I think the entire purpose of this year long + project can be contained in that little teaser (borderline pornography?), in particular those few words and that extraordinary scene at the door of chez Rothley.

    Oh deary me..
    Verdi Today at 1:04 pm
    @Richard IV wrote:
    Looks good so far. can`t wait to see the whole thing. Good on you Sonia.
    To appease my inborn cynicism, can you explain why you think this one and half minute 'teaser' looks good so far?

    This is a genuine question because I can't see any promise in her offering from that little trailer, partcularly following one year of hints and teasers and delays to whet the appetite. I think she's playing a game here, she comes across as unprofessional and insincere which instantly arouses my suspicions as to her true purpose.

    Irrespective of what I think, I do however hope she rewards your optimism.

    NB: I too am looking forward to seeing the whole show.


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    Post  Sykes on Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:36 pm

    Hongkong Phooey Today at 10:16 am
    Bampots wrote:
    Doorstepping or was it pre Planned? Would the McCanns really be exposed to someone walking up the path with a camera crew in tow and then answer the door? Wouldn't they of all people have a security camera or peephole,perhaps we should all drop in for a coffee.Find that strange myself . Saying that I wish Sonia well and hope this is a genuine expose of the case time will tell.
    Unfortunately I have a healthy dose of scepticism for this documentary, the trailer plays right into the hands of their supporters I.e. poor Kate being forced to put up with some troll at her door!
    It's a bit like someone putting the 60 reasons pamphlets through neighbours doors, not a very bright idea.
    Freedom Today at 10:48 am
    Did the visit even happen? I would have thought that, if someone turned up on Kate's doorstep unannounced and was obviously not a sycophantic airhead like Lorraine Kelly, the story would have been splashed all over the tabloids.

    "St Kate hounded by Internet troll".
    Hongkong Phooey Today at 10:51 am
    That's a fair and reasonable question, something just doesn't sit right with that whole situation.
    Popcorn Today at 10:53 am
    I've been looking forward to what I hoped (and still hope) will be a balanced documentary summing up the troubling inconsistencies that surround the Madeleine McCann case, so I have to say I'm a little disappointed by this. A trailer's purpose is to whet the appetite and make the viewer look forward to watching the programme in question. But there's no information about when or by what channel this documentary is ever to be aired in full.
    I watched the trailer via the link on this forum, but how is the wider public going to find it and have their interest in the documentary piqued? Can I expect to see this trailer on Channel 5 any time soon, for example?
    canada12 Today at 10:55 am
    Is that really Kate who opened the door?
    And is that really location sound of Sonia asking the question, or was that voiceover added afterwards?
    Just curious.
    We're assuming a lot from this trailer.
    Don't Forget Madeleine Today at 11:23 am
    What a waste of time that was, terrible quality and not professionally done in my eyes. Very suspect whether that is Kate McCann at the door. I must say it didn't even look like her house, only the front door did. It looked like SP was walking down a small lane to the house but I thought it had a very large open front garden and it was in a cul-de-sac.

    I'm a very fast reader and I couldn't even read all of the wording at the beginning, I only got about two-thirds through it before it went off the screen.

    Very disappointing all round, I hope the full documentary has more to offer.
    susible Today at 11:38 am
    Well the doorstepping of Kate was always my biggest gripe...how is it not okay to doorstep Brenda with a camera crew in tow, but it's fine to do it to Kate, especially as we know that there are two young children who live in that house...

    Sorry, not impressed. Will reserve judgment til the rest of it comes out, but from that clip, it certainly doesn't seem to have the makings of a good documentary, a bit of a mish mash with no clear direction imo. And still no hint as to where, when it will be broadcast, not the best start.
    Dee Coy Today at 12:01 pm
    I think it's Kate and it's an impromptu knock on the door. This is why the footage is blurry, like you often get even with the BBC and ITV when they're following live action with one camera. It's the blurryness which proves this situation is an authentic unexpected event from Kate's point of view, if it had been set-up by prior agreement or the whole thing an acted scene the coverage would be clearer and with static cameras set up strategically.

    Is this doorstepping a mistake or a masterstroke?

    Yes, there is a case for saying it is wrong to doorstep anyone in any circumstances and this makes Sonia a hypocrite as she is citing Brenda's tragedy as the prompt that brought the film into production.

    But on the other hand, there is the case put by the McCann supporters claiming that Brenda's doorstepping and the outrageous repeated broadcasting of it was justified. They cannot now turn around and say this knock on Kate's door is an outrage. There is also the case that Sonia is approaching Kate with a genuine question as to why she refused to answer the 48. The McCanns are already celebrities by their own hand and with unanswered questions surrounding them.

    Brenda wasn't. She had never sought fame nor had ever contacted the McCanns. She was a private member of the public.

    In doorstepping Kate is Sonia cleverly forcing the viewer into comparing the parallels? If this doorstepping of Kate McCann is risble, what does that makes Sky's treatment of Brenda Leyland? Is this, in fact, the very reason Sonia did this and is this the pivot around which she will pitch her programme in order to condemn those who hounded Brenda to death?

    Sonia has always said her documentary is to bring focus to what happened to Brenda. By doorstepping Kate the frame is drawn.
    susible Today at 12:46
    The McCanns didn't doorstep Brenda Leyland, Martin Brunt did. As I don't believe in eye for an eye type scenarios, I still say it was wrong to doorstep Kate when there was every chance her children were in the house.

    And I agree with others, tragic as it is, this case is not about Brenda, it's about Madeleine, and plenty of people have asked Kate about the 48 questions, she has never given a direct answer, except via family members who have said that she had already answered the questions in previous police interviews and that her lawyer advised her not to answer them again. So I don't really expect her to change her position now
    Hongkong Phooey Today at 13:22
    @ Cristobell, what nonsense, as far as I'm concerned Brenda has been latched onto and if you want to make a case then it's separate from this one. From the trailer what we have seen (so far) is a replication of Martin Brunt confronting an unaware innocent person (unfortunately no charges have been made) on their own doorstep. Does Sonia have the right to do this or does this make her as bad as Martin Brunt who you vilified.


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    Re: AND, FINALLY .... WELL, JUST THE TRAILER AND A LOAD OF RUBBISH AKA A PRESS RELEASE

    Post  Sykes on Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:07 pm

    Post  aiyoyo Today at 2:09 pm
    @hentie wrote:
    Why the need to describe as 'Teaser'?

    Almost like she's playing a game........
    It's no laughing matter!
    Totally inappropriate and extremely unprofessional to call a serious documentary trailer a "teaser".  Especially one (trailer) that had been proclaimed to be a tribute to Brenda Leyland.  Very distasteful and disrespectful to term a tribute trailer a "teaser".

    Nothing of value in the clip, and definitely zilch there to show for, that can be said to be of tribute to BL that the trailer was claimed to be.

    Very poor quality and amateurish.
    All there was is one middle age plumpish blond walking up a pathway throughout duration of the clip and then a blur figure behind a door.  

    Apart from the action of proving she doorstepped Kate McCann, which incidentally is already public domain knowledge because still image of her and her camera man standing outside the McCanns' house had already been in the circulation much earlier.

    Just what SP's definition and idea of a tribute is, one wonders?
    Because she gave Kate McCann a doze of medicine that Brenda Leyland was subjected to (ie being doorstepped) - is that it.... her definition/idea of a trailer tribute to Brenda Leyland?

    Christ on a bike, if the whole point of the "teaser" trailer is to prove she did do a documentary, what a bloody waste of time !  No substance in that trailer and certainly no teaser message to glimpse of what's more to come.... that.....will be the pivotal point of the documentary.
    Precisely summed up.   Sykes


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    Post  Sykes on Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:42 pm



    But this thread is about Sonia's trailer for her forthcoming documentary and Brenda Leyland! I refer you title!

    Brenda's death was triggered by the McCanns' publicity stunt? Do you not see that? Today is the anniversary of her tragic death in a lonely hotel room. She was the final solution, the warning to the rest of us to shut up and go away. She may even have intended that her death would make headlines, who knows what thoughts were going through her troubled mind. Having considered suicide myself many times in the past (but never seriously, I hasten to add), I have written my own epilogue, spat 'that'll teach them!' and envisaged myself being found clad in satin, looking beautiful, and lying prostrate across a hotel bed, a tragic heroine, who's death brings her oppressors into the dock. It's a common theme/scenario for many manic depressives and there are hundreds of variations.

    Brenda knew her death would cause sensational headlines, she had followed this case long enough. It was a form of revenge against the McCanns and the media who attacked her. And it worked. The clamp down on internet trolls, especially those who comment on the case of missing Madeleine, simply didn't happen. The public were appalled alright, but not at Brenda, they were appalled at the cruelty of Brenda's very public execution. Brenda turned the tables on them, she should be celebrated!

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    Don't Forget Madeleine Today at 2:50 pm
    OMG, I can't believe you've actually said that. That is truly reprehensible, disgusting even. You've really plumbed the depths there, that's for sure.

    May be the fact that a woman had her face and interview put on Sky news every 15 minutes when she actually hadn't murdered anyone or blown up a shopping mall was too much for her to bare when she was already feeling frustrated with the whole McCann case when it all seemed to be turned around on her was too much for her to take.
     susible Today at 2:53 pm
    Thank goodness you said something DFM, I was totally speechless at that unbelievable load of claptrap and suicide is never pretty, and should never be romanticised in such a way, it is devastating for those involved...I know, I have seen it and it will haunt me forever
    Hongkong Phooey Today at 2:56 pm
    Well said DFM!
    susible Today at 2:56 pm
    I was replying to your post cristobell where you claimed that Brenda lost her life because she asked questions. No she didn't, she took her life because she was bullied by the reprehensible Brunt and Sky news
    Don't Forget Madeleine Today at 2:59 pm
    You can't wriggle off the hook so easily, you said those statements, you will have to live with them from now on as you did that disastrous Sun interview.
    Cristobell Today at 3:10 pm

    Whether we like it or not, suicide is the ultimate form of revenge! Have your never read Wuthering Heights? I know it is a sensitive subject, and that is why as a manic depressive myself, I have experience of those lowly, lowly depths and have no inhibitions about sharing my own experiences with others. I don't think mental health should be brushed under the carpet. I have never considered actually taking my own life, I love my kids way too much, but I have allowed myself to experience those intense feelings, and hell yeh, I would use it as an opportunity for payback! I even have a book among my collection, entitled 'Don't Get Mad Get Even'. Google suicide notes, you will probably find several others who have done the same thing!
    Hongkong Phooey Today at 3:16 pm
    This is getting bonkers, ultimate revenge my a*se (in this case), some people live in la la land.
    Don't Forget Madeleine Today at 3:17 pm

    Are you for real, I was talking about the statements you made in your previous post about Brenda. Well I'm glad you're not tortured in the wee small hours, I bet many are and they didn't even know Brenda.
    This goes on and on for another 3 pages - so here is the link, remove xxxx to access.

    xxxxhttp://maddiemccannmystery.forumotion.co.uk/t1010p60-trailer-here-it-is-sonia-poulton-the-untold-story-of-madeleine-mccann

    Comment from another forum with thanks.

    Those are just about the most depraved statements ANYONE has come out with. That ghastly woman should hang her head in shame - if she knows what that is - for announcing that Ms Leyland killed herself to get revenge on the McCann family.

    Utterly disgusting - I hope to God Ms Leyland's surviving family never see that.


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    Post  Sykes on Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:02 pm

    Post Cristobell Today at 6:38 pm

    Those who read my words carefully, will see that I am offering comfort to Brenda's sons. In a nutshell, it was not their fault. Brenda was pushed into a corner (not by them, by Sky News), and as a mum with two adult sons, I know she want them to know, there was nothing they could have done and it wasn't their fault.

    Most middle aged mums who love their kids, will go out of their way not to trouble, or disturb their childrens' lives, we all do it, its an inbuilt mum/dad mechanism. How ya doing, is normally answered with 'I'm fine, tell me all about you'. We want to ooh and aahhh at what our kids are doing, we don't want to bore/trouble them with our problems. Most of us do not want to be a burden. Brenda was a proud woman, but she wasn't a weak one. She fought back in her own way.

    My words are not offensive CF, I don't understand the need to censor them. Surely Brenda's state of mind is highly relevant to this topic?
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    Thank you Resistor, no I am not mocking cristobell at all,. I disagreed with what she said, she then backtracked telling me to stay on topic and then further backtracked claiming she hadn't said what I accused her of.

    @Mimi and why do you think that cristobell is the last authority on mental illness, you know nothing about my background and what I know about mental health and to be honest, it seems that if we are not praising sonia and cristobell to the rafters and have any issues with what they are doing, then we are the bad ones. I still think doorstepping Kate was a bad move and giving an interview to the Sun about being an internet troll made us all look bad, that is my opinion, it is not going to change and I don't see why I should be silenced and talked down to. It is cristobell who has consistently made an issue of this, claiming that those who express concerns about the docu and interview are somehow afraid of it and repeatedly I have said no, I am not afraid of it, why the heck would I be (and who can forget cristobells rants about her worst enemies being the antis..people on this forum who have disagreed with her, I do believe I should have the right to reply.


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    Post  Sykes on Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:25 pm

    Comment from another forum with thanks.

    Hutton claims:
    Those who read my words carefully, will see that I am offering comfort to Brenda's sons.
    No, what everyone that has watched this degenerate display from her can see her desperate need for attention - any attention - has led to her exploiting a woman's death to feed her own ego, with her woeful cod-psychology, and the truly ghastly allegation that Ms Leyland committed suicide to get 'revenge' on the family of a missing child.
    Just plain evil, IMO.


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    Post  Sykes on Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:14 pm

    Hounder on the subject of Hutton:

    Re: Sonia Poulton 'Teaser Trailer' out now (4 Oct 2015)
    Post snook Today at 8:55 pm

    I think we have another Joan of Arc too Verdi.

    Admin please delete if not appropriate.

    I have been wandering around the internet looking at comments from other forums and have to say she who cannot be named has surpassed herself today for wickedness and self centred crassness

    She has been suggesting Brenda committed suicide as revenge against the McCanns and referenced the romanticism of death by ones own hand and Wuthering Heights.

    Of course her words were met with revulsion by other posters despite her trying to deny saying any such thing. (Post still visible). She then tried to say she was trying to bring comfort to Brenda's sons with her words! Of course it was as usual laced liberally with the usual me, me, me and lots.

    We will never know ultimately why Brenda chose the path she did although I'm sure the rolling news did not help.

    What we do know from her own children is that she had attempted it before and so perhaps this public 'shaming' was a step too far for her.

    Poulton and her sidekick are determined to not let Brenda or her family rest and are using her tragic death to promote themselves. It is the height of hypocrisy by Poulton to demonise Brunt and then do exactly the same thing herself (if she in fact did).

    Much is being made in other places that Brenda was picked specifically because of her fragile condition. I do not believe this and I doubt the Mccanns knew anything about her save for copies of her tweets in the dossier. Brenda had made repeated attempts to contact journalists, Brunt in particular and I think this is why she was picked, nothing sinister at all.

    We know Brunt was made aware of her mental state after he had approached her but presumably by that time even if he did make it known to his employers, he was in no position to stop an already big story.

    Yes ultimately it is linked to the Mccanns but I see no orchestrated campaign to engineer such an outcome. Poulton sees conspiracy in everything and then tries to exploit any situation for her own gain.

    If this 'teaser' is the shape of things to come then I predict it will fizzle like a damp firework into YouTube obscurity.

    You know it's bad when Bennett's lot are making semi-sense.


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    Post  Sykes on Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:15 am

    Re: TRAILER - HERE IT IS .....Sonia Poulton - The untold story of Madeleine McCann
    Post Cristobell Today at 9:56 pm
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    I am tentatively reopening this thread in the hope that we can continue with a good discussion in a friendly way.
    You lost over 40 users when you locked down the thread CF. I'm afraid, I, like most of them, have now lost interest.
    No comment on this, admittedly from some time ago (thanks to **** for sending it to me) other than to say it explains a lot.   Sykes



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    A GOOD ONE - AS ALWAYS - FROM TIGERLOAF

    Post  Sykes on Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:25 am

    From Myths with thanks also to tigerloaf, succinct and to the point as always.    Sykes
    Postby tigerloaf » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:29 pm
    Over a year in the making and Poulton thinks a few seconds of trailer is progress enough to let rip with a PRESS RELEASE.

    PRESS RELEASE MY ARSE!

    It is an anti-McCann rant on an yet another inconsequential, amateur web page, nothing more and nothing less.

    Let's see just which members of the press actually take up this PRESS RELEASE about a ninety second youtube home movie! So far nothing in any of the papers or on TV that I can see and they have had hours to latch onto this major story. :s_biggrin

    Not a single thing in this trailer of the home movie gives the slightest indication that the full version (when it is finally completed) will include anything other than Sonia and other anti McCann trolls repeating the same old questions which have been asked ten thousand times before. There will be no answers because no matter how much Poulton loves to screech at people in the street or on doorsteps nobody ever answers her. The one truth in the trailer is that Kate McCann won't have a clue who this idiot is. I am told that none of the other doorstepping of people involved in the case (and yes, Poulton tried a few others) resulted in anything other than footage of her getting ignored or told to "bugger off".



    Nor will other more ghoulish scenes to be incorporated in this still unfinished home movie shed the slightest light on the disappearance of Madeleine. What, for example, did Poulton really expect to gain by filming the scene where the nasty troll, Brenda Leyland, took her own life? If that is the kind of sick, ghoulish journalism Poulton aspires to now she has given up trying to be famous on Lizard TV then she is still a long way from what people might call a 'real journalist'.



    How will the lengthy section to be incorporated into this movie of the self-confessed hate troll, Hutton, contribute to understanding what actually went on in Praia da Luz?

    Does Poulton think that producing a "PRESS RELEASE" which contains blatant lies will endear her to the Press whose attention she is begging for? It is a categorical lie that this video was "prompted by the death of Brenda Leyland in October 2014." Any reader of this site knows that is not the truth. It is pretty sick that on this amateur blog PRESS RELEASE Poulton talks of inconsistencies over what Kate and Gerry have said over the last 8 years but she will not herself explain the glaring inconsistencies in her own comments about this home movie and who is funding it, when it was begun, when it will be finished etc.

    I am laughing out loud at this central description of some of the content of the home movie.

       "The film includes expert testimony from those who have studied the case as well as encounters with the people at the very heart of the story"

    Hutton is, I am reliably informed, the central expert, though others equally unqualified join in with their ill-informed commentaries. But we have seen Hutton perform before. It was hysterically funny then and will be even more hilarious now we know more about her motives for involvement which include her desire to be seen as a nasty troll and her mental health and drug issues. I do hope that the other similar woman, Butler, whose greatest claims to fame are her fantasy walk to Praia da Luz and her disgusting criminal negligence towards her parents is also involved. How could she not be? Her insight into the war of words will be truly enlightening. And what about other experts such as the strange Irish woman who befriended Murat? How could she be left out of any home movie about this story? And please, please let us have the ravings of Birch. What genuine home movie about this case would be complete without Poulton's mate Birch intoning his craziness?

    The next question, of course, is when will the home movie be finished? A year so far and still not ready for publication. And wnen it does appear on this amateur blog will it sink without trace or will it be taken up by the press as Poulton so desperately wants (hence the pretence at a PRESS RELEASE)?

    It looks like Hutton has taken up preaching to the birds in this clip from the home movie rushes! Most appropriate for today actually.



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    Post  Sykes on Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:14 pm

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    Rob1 » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:05 am

    And so the documentary example has been revealed. Mccann case expert has been revealed as Rosalinda Hutton who thinks that it will bring comfort to Brenda's sons if she tells them that their mother sacrificed her life just to hurt the Mccanns and to protect other anti Mccanns from being exposed by the media.

    Excuse me for thinking this is one of the most disgusting things I have read but I am not surprised that it comes from Sonia Poulton's 'expert' because I do not think this professed journalist is enthusiastic about the accuracy of research in her project. I think she would have accepted any willing participant as an 'expert'.

    Equally disgusting is the sensationalist image of Sonia Poulton in a hotel bedroom showing the 'scene of death'. How is this relevant to to solving the mystery of Madeleine Mccann? Not at all. It is more likely Sonia Poulton seeking materials for a self-promotional documentary.

    Nor is it likely the same room because hotels are very sensitive to deaths occurring on their premises and policy is not to reveal the room details. When death occurs, the room is quickly cleaned and rehired with a cloak of secrecy. To hire a room for the purpose of demonstraing that 'this is like the death room' is therefore done exclusively to tantalise ghoulish viewers.

    Note that no mainstream media journalists reduced themselves to this level. Nor is it respectful to Brenda's family. The opposite is true imo.


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    Post  Sykes on Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:24 pm

    Forker sticks up for Sonia:
    Kate McCann has never explained why she did not answer the 48 questions at such a crucial time, immediately following her child's alleged abduction
    I thought the armchair defectives had all read the police files?

    Obviously not, or the haters would know Mrs McCann had to put up with insulting 'questions' about the NHS shift system, etc., from the Amaral squad no less than FOUR MONTHS after her child was abducted.

    Do the haters actually know anything - except, We hate them doctors, we love Big Rocky Rock Goncalol?


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    Post  Sykes on Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:01 pm

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    Rob1 » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:19 pm
    Why did Sonia Poulton ask Kate a question whose answer has been known for 8 years?

    Kate refused to answer 48 questions on the instruction of her lawyer.

    Does Sonia Poulton fail to understand this answer?

    Did Sonia Poulton's poor research fail to discover this answer?

    Did Sonia Poulton think Kate would give a different answer if she came to her house and knocked on her door?

    Or did Sonia Poulton merely use this question to show off in front of her camera and to impress her friends the Mccann trolls?

    We hear the tale of the school bully who approaches a disabled kid in public and asks 'Why are you not in the soccer team?' The answer is obvious, but the question is asked to humiliate the disabled kid and provide entertainment for the friends of the bully.

    Sonia Poulton had a face to face opportunity to ask Kate any question yet she asked one which everyone knows the answer to. And she is so proud of this piece of investigative journalism that she made it her 'teaser'.
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    Post  Sykes on Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:22 pm

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    Hael » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:34 am

    Ever had a nagging question in the back of your head that just wont go away?

    The one 'pull factor' in this clip is the expectation of having to hear what Kate said to Sonia at the door. Which brings me to the door. Why would Kate open the door to Sonia? We've all seen the threats directed at the family, surely she would be more security conscious. Which makes me believe that Kate wouldn't open the door to Sonia! And that got me thinking...

    In preparing the documentary for release, Sonia did mention on more than one occasion that the footage is being edited. And then I had a Eureka moment. Idea

    Go have a look at the clip again. There is no evidence that Kate actually opened the door to Sonia. You see a black screen, a door noise (who says it's the door opening!) and then the next clip is the door already open with Kate partly obscured by the door and Sonia talking to her. I would suggest that Sonia has been doing some crafty editing. If she denies this, then she could quite easily just show the unedited footage to assure us that she hasn't been making use of underhandedly editing tactics.





    Which begs the question how much crafty editing is in this documentary?

    I would suggest that the actual UNTOLD story of the case is the way the anti McCann campaigners are making use of all sorts of tactics like: defamation, trolling, stalking, on line threats, intimidation and this type of selective (edited) footage to harass the parents of a missing child.


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    Post  Sykes on Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:18 pm

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    Rob1 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:50 pm
    By Cristobel

    The documentary will be broadcast when the time is right. At the moment it isn't. I did explain in my blog the importance of getting the timing right. Neither Sonia, nor I, want to do anything that will interfere with the official investigation. Thank you to those who understand that, it is appreciated.

    Is Cristobel an assistant in this production? Commissioner perhaps? She is apparently making decisions about the release therefore must be involved at a senior level.

    Perhaps the profits from her novel have invested in this film?
    Comment from another forum with thanks.
    Of course, it could just be Hutton emitting hot air from her nether regions, as usual.
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    Post  Sykes on Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:31 pm

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    susible Today at 11:17 am
    This is the thing I don't really understand, that if posters like myself, HKP, Resistor etc ask any questions at all..usually in response to something that Sonia or Cristobell have tweeted/posted, then other posters automatically seem to assume that we are either against Cristobell and Sonia or are frightened/don't want the documentary to be aired, when that is not the case at all, certainly from my point of view. To be honest, I had never heard of Sonia until her short lived venture into The People's Voice tv thing and to be honest, she was just another dissenting voice, like the rest of us here, questioning the official McCann abduction story, so nothing special or different imo

    As far as I am concerned, the only way we will get proper resolution to this case is through the two active police investigations and as such any documentaries be they by R D Hall or Sonia Poulton, won't make a sod of a difference in the greater scheme of things and my main concern was any possible interference in those ongoing investigations, in terms of scuppering a fair trial due to a media expose, that would work in the McCanns favour and as a result, mean that we would never get a proper resolution, arrests, charges and convictions. Cristobell's post the other day seemed to alleviate that possibility by saying that timing would be everything and there would be nothing that would compromise the current investigations..so as far as I'm concerned that's fair enough. However, I don't think that there should be problem with the likes of HKP asking questions about who the experts are, that seems to be a fairly innocuous question as far as I can see and I totally agree that HKP has the right to ask it. Fair enough if the answer is "sorry can't tell you for xyz reason" but in my opinion Sonia is trying to sell a product and as such I think it only fair that potential consumers have the right to ask certain questions prior to obtaining said product. Whilst I can understand that to divulge the entire plot and cast of characters would probably not be in Sonia's best interests, surely answering a couple of basic questions shouldn't be a problem?

    As I have repeatedly said, I am quite happy to wait to see the finished article, although I fully understand the frustration when a "Teaser" tweet is posted, which obviously encourages people to ask questions, Sonia is posting tweets to maintain interest in her product, so she cannot be unduly upset if people then do want further information. Ultimately though, and I am prepared to be wrong and will happily admit if I am, but I feel that this documentary will not offer those of us who have been following the case for years, with much to surprise us, and of course if its distribution is limited to youtube etc then it will be relatively futile as it won't reach the mass UK audience who would most benefit from it imo
    Interesting comments. Sykes


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    Post  Sykes on Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:40 pm

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    Rob1 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:36 pm
    I looked again at photographs and video of Sonia Poulton doorstepping Kate and I agree that editing has been applied.

    I do not think SP would stand so close to the main entrance of the Mccann family and make a film if the family were inside. I think SP and the man with the camera would be standing on private property.



    I think it is possible that this photograph was taken when SP knew the house was empty. Also the clip from the 'teaser' where she is walking towards the Mccann house. I do not think there was continuous filming (SP walks up the Mccann house, knocks, door opens, SP speaks).

    Perhaps Kate will write another book about her experience of cyberstalking and abuse and tell us what truthfully happened in this assault of privacy. Is SP proud to enter the Mccann private property and abuse the family in their home by repeating questions that have been answered already? Does SP think this is an example of fair journalism? Would SP welcome any 'freelance' investigator to enter her property and knock her door to ask nasty questions whilst filming?
    Carana » Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:54 pm
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    I'm still laughing at him hiding behind the hedge.........and now he's brave enough to stand outside the front door.....
    I guess that that was the idea: to get Kate to open the door not knowing who on earth this woman was and then have a cameraman lurching out from behind a hedge
    Rob1 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:40 pm
    Her 'teaser' gave an impression that Kate answered the door to Sonia Poulton and the man with a camera, but the moment of the door opening is suppressed in a black screen with only the sound.

    Sonia Poulton speaks often of 'transparency'. So why hide the film of the door opening and have only the 'suggestion' that the door was opened to Sonia Poulton? Is this film an accurate presentation of the facts? Or are there facts which Sonia Poulton is hiding from her supporters?

    I think the black screen+sound is quite suspicious. Kate opening her door to Sonia Poulton would be good filming. I therefore think that did not happen. I think Kate opening the door to a hostile person she is likely warned about is not realistic.

    SP has received much criticism for doorstepping Kate, even by antis. Also SP's voice was shaking when she spoke to Kate, asking the question which has been answered many times, but which Mccann trolls would like to hear. Why was her voice shaking? Was this Sonia Poulton's first words to Kate with a shaky voice? (nervous) Or was this the end of her nasty 'surprise' for the poor lady? Perhaps Kate has told her she is calling the police or initiated panic alarm?

    This is why I do not think SP stayed at the door to make more film after speaking to Kate.

    I do not think SP will be transparent about her filming technics. I think she demands transparency from others and privacy for herself. She might say that she intends to keep some matters private because she has made a film and wishes to maintain her surprises for the film. Why therefore does she not understand that the Mccanns and other people must keep some matters private because there is a police investigation and a missing child to consider?
    Rob1 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:19 pm
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    Carana wrote:
    Does anyone know which "mainstream" TV station is supposed to be airing this documentary masterpiece?

    I guess there's no rush as apparently it will only be aired "when the time is right"...

    Ermmm......can I take a rain check on that?
    Will it have the investigative journalist quality required for mainstream? Accurate facts, balance, unbiased? I think not. If SP makes a film of insane people giving interviews on how much they hate K+G Mccann and telling lies about the case, I don't think it will be considered sufficient quality for mainstream. Not even shaky film of Sonia Poulton abusing Kate Mccann at her home to ask a question which has been answered many times. Nor film of Sonia Poulton abusing a woman in the street because she attended Brenda's inquiry.

    IMHO most mainstream TV companies would reject such a film immediately.

    The people who say they star in SP's film are also internet trolls who make many cruel comments about the Mccanns on the web. No one will consider them reliable informants about the case if they see their twitters.


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    Post  Sykes on Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:45 pm

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    scoobydoo » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:19 am
    No mainstream channel will touch it.

    Its would be a big risk as far as libel and contempt of court go. Even in the trailer any reasonable person would infer there are reasons to be suspicious of the McCanns, which is libelous. It also makes a big claim against the police by stating as fact the McCann's have not been questioned about apparent inconsistencies. Now either poulton is lying or the police have passed confidential information to her.

    However, perhaps an even bigger stumbling block is the quality. It looms like a bad GCSE project based on a stuff a teenager googled without having the ability to evaluate the information that came up. Its confused, is it about the disappearance, or treatment of trolls in the media? What exactly do Hutton and Leyland have to do with the disappearance? And if it features Brenda Leyland her family might not be happy either.

    As for her doorstepping Kate I noticed a few things. Sonia's voice is dubbed over, they haven't recorded her speaking to Kate, you can't actually hear Kate and doors don't sound like that either (get a better Foley artist my dear). But the time it takes to ask the question is actually longer than the time shown at the door. Plus the camera man is out on the drive and rather than standing where he has a direct view, he has to scurry along the length of the house and we don't see Kate opening or shutting the door. I think its that last bit that's most telling as if she had slammed the door in her face they would have loved it. I suspect Sonia poulton knocked on the door and asked for directions, claimed to be canvassing for a political party etc spoke a couple of words to Kate unrelated to madeleine and went on her way.

    Also notice poulton caught herself out? She said she has been trying to get an interview with Kate since Feb 2014, yet said "you don't know me I'm Sonia poulton a journalist and broadcaster". If she had been in contact she would know Kate would recognise her name and most people would mention they had previously contacted them.

    Poor editing and camera work as when she is at the door all you can think is that she has a massive backside. Really should have tried to not make that the focus of the piece, a vague image of a woman that could be Kate McCann is overshadowed by a very clear centred image of poultons huge bum.

    Poor poulton, for all her hard work she is still ignored by the McCann's get they have it on their power to give her massive publicity by during her.

    Also, even if they didn't want the camera man on the property and didn't want Kate to see the camera why didn't he zoom in so we can actually see what is going on?


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    DELAY EXCUSE NUMBER 120,000

    Post  Sykes on Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:54 am

    The latest excuse:
    IWTT aka Truthie ‏@Real_IWTT_Ringo Nov 8 Wales, United Kingdom
    @SoniaPoulton I hear the release of your #McCann video "The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann – A War of Information" is imminent. Where?

    Sonia Poulton
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    @Real_IWTT_Ringo we're currently dealing with legal issues regarding Operation Grange. More info to follow.


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